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		<title>By: The Role of “Free” in Freelancing</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Role of “Free” in Freelancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my own career path. I was still a college freshman when I started freelancing, and I did a lot of spec work back then &#8212; both graphic design and writing. My experience is not unique; I often hear of new [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my own career path. I was still a college freshman when I started freelancing, and I did a lot of spec work back then &#8212; both graphic design and writing. My experience is not unique; I often hear of new [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 4 Signs That Your Potential Clients Aren&#8217;t Interested (and What to Do About It)</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/08/24/dealing-with-speculative-work/#comment-319276</link>
		<dc:creator>4 Signs That Your Potential Clients Aren&#8217;t Interested (and What to Do About It)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you know if we like them?&#8221; They&#8217;ll call it an audition or a test, but it&#8217;s really spec work. Usually, spec work is a sign that the client isn&#8217;t interested in you or your skills. They [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you know if we like them?&#8221; They&#8217;ll call it an audition or a test, but it&#8217;s really spec work. Usually, spec work is a sign that the client isn&#8217;t interested in you or your skills. They [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wilensky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wilensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can write a tight SOW, bid, etc., take the work with a 50% deposit, and still have professional bastards burn you. I can smell professional bastards a mile away - the first sniff is trying to &quot;get on spec&quot;.

I recently acted as sub contract writer for my buddy&#039;s agency - he had his agreements and professional engagement docs in place, but he (therefore also I) was screwed for the balance of that really excellent work.

I wrote off the anger and the loss, as I was not the prime. They overturned 4 drafts because they didn&#039;t know what features of the very technical product they wanted to highlight. A moving target, despite weekly reviews, and my voluminous on-line portfolio of past work.

There will always be crappy, low class business that will impugn your work product, break contract clauses, and generally weasel out of paying the bill. Spec is just one way that an industry overburdened by amateur writers and analysts deals with the competitive labor surplus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can write a tight SOW, bid, etc., take the work with a 50% deposit, and still have professional bastards burn you. I can smell professional bastards a mile away &#8211; the first sniff is trying to &#8220;get on spec&#8221;.</p>
<p>I recently acted as sub contract writer for my buddy&#8217;s agency &#8211; he had his agreements and professional engagement docs in place, but he (therefore also I) was screwed for the balance of that really excellent work.</p>
<p>I wrote off the anger and the loss, as I was not the prime. They overturned 4 drafts because they didn&#8217;t know what features of the very technical product they wanted to highlight. A moving target, despite weekly reviews, and my voluminous on-line portfolio of past work.</p>
<p>There will always be crappy, low class business that will impugn your work product, break contract clauses, and generally weasel out of paying the bill. Spec is just one way that an industry overburdened by amateur writers and analysts deals with the competitive labor surplus.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-08-31 &#124; the markfr ditherings</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-08-31 &#124; the markfr ditherings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WebWorkerDaily » Archive Dealing With Speculative Work « (tags: small.business spec work) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Cresswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Cresswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even for a firm like ours, 15 people and part of a larger company as well, we typically say no to spec work.  Our consultants do, however, end up writing many specifications documents to help clients figure out what they want and need.  Beyond that, we think doing work for free is bad business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even for a firm like ours, 15 people and part of a larger company as well, we typically say no to spec work.  Our consultants do, however, end up writing many specifications documents to help clients figure out what they want and need.  Beyond that, we think doing work for free is bad business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff :: The whole reason why spec-work is not acceptable is because it asks people to do what they do as their profession without the guarantee that they are going to be paid. Most designers have a portfolio so that they can showcase their talent. Why should they then do all the work upfront, on their own time, for free? I think that the best way your recent situation could have been handled would have been to interview multiple designers and look at their portfolios, hire the best one to make the initial draft, and move forward from there. Wouldn&#039;t you agree that is a much more win-win situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff :: The whole reason why spec-work is not acceptable is because it asks people to do what they do as their profession without the guarantee that they are going to be paid. Most designers have a portfolio so that they can showcase their talent. Why should they then do all the work upfront, on their own time, for free? I think that the best way your recent situation could have been handled would have been to interview multiple designers and look at their portfolios, hire the best one to make the initial draft, and move forward from there. Wouldn&#8217;t you agree that is a much more win-win situation?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Yablon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Yablon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting topic. Generally fair, but (for example) here&#039;s an instance where we have asked for spec work at &lt;a href=&quot;http://answerguy.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Virtual VIP&lt;/a&gt;:

We were engaged to create a web site for a large financial institution. The work included everything--a total re-working of their internet presence.

Part of the gig was, of course, design. We asked several designers to submit their work, given parameters that matched the clients&#039; needs.

This is much like what advertsing agencies are asked to do every day; in order to pitch their work, they SHOW THEIR WORK. In a creative situation, this is (all but) necessary.

My point: yes, a lot of time being asked for spec work can mean you&#039;re getting scammed. But not always.

Jeff Yablon
President &amp; CEO
&lt;a href=&quot;http://answerguy.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Virtual VIP&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting topic. Generally fair, but (for example) here&#8217;s an instance where we have asked for spec work at <a href="http://answerguy.com" rel="nofollow">Virtual VIP</a>:</p>
<p>We were engaged to create a web site for a large financial institution. The work included everything&#8211;a total re-working of their internet presence.</p>
<p>Part of the gig was, of course, design. We asked several designers to submit their work, given parameters that matched the clients&#8217; needs.</p>
<p>This is much like what advertsing agencies are asked to do every day; in order to pitch their work, they SHOW THEIR WORK. In a creative situation, this is (all but) necessary.</p>
<p>My point: yes, a lot of time being asked for spec work can mean you&#8217;re getting scammed. But not always.</p>
<p>Jeff Yablon<br />
President &amp; CEO<br />
<a href="http://answerguy.com" rel="nofollow">Virtual VIP</a></p>
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		<title>By: DanGTD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanGTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>37signals hired recently a designer with this method.

However, they paid each and every candidate for their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>37signals hired recently a designer with this method.</p>
<p>However, they paid each and every candidate for their work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mookus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mookus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, spec work is the operating principle for foundations when they deal with nonprofit grantees.  It&#039;s truly staggering how much time and resources go into multiple proposal revisions for foundations who don&#039;t know what they want but expect nonprofits to keep developing projects until they see something that they like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, spec work is the operating principle for foundations when they deal with nonprofit grantees.  It&#8217;s truly staggering how much time and resources go into multiple proposal revisions for foundations who don&#8217;t know what they want but expect nonprofits to keep developing projects until they see something that they like.</p>
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		<title>By: billbennettnz</title>
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		<dc:creator>billbennettnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on the kind of work you do, one alternative I&#039;ve had success with in the past is to ask the potential client to hire me on a trial basis at an hourly or daily rate for one job, one day or one week. 

That way they get a no obligation way to see if you are any good. You get paid for the work done and you get an opportunity to see if the people in question are worth working for -- and if they pay their invoices on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on the kind of work you do, one alternative I&#8217;ve had success with in the past is to ask the potential client to hire me on a trial basis at an hourly or daily rate for one job, one day or one week. </p>
<p>That way they get a no obligation way to see if you are any good. You get paid for the work done and you get an opportunity to see if the people in question are worth working for &#8212; and if they pay their invoices on time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lair Keeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lair Keeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone had asked me for this last year while job searching.  A big SEO company asked me to do design work as an &quot;interview&quot; to see how good I really am.  Are you friggin&#039; kidding me???

I told him how I felt and he thought it was &quot;normal&quot;.  No it&#039;s not.  It was a good debate between me and my partner so now I get to forward him this article.  Thanks WWD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone had asked me for this last year while job searching.  A big SEO company asked me to do design work as an &#8220;interview&#8221; to see how good I really am.  Are you friggin&#8217; kidding me???</p>
<p>I told him how I felt and he thought it was &#8220;normal&#8221;.  No it&#8217;s not.  It was a good debate between me and my partner so now I get to forward him this article.  Thanks WWD!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Staes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Staes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never take spec work.  It brings nothing but trouble, and is usually a company looking for something for nothing.

If there isn&#039;t enough respect to pay for the initial work, there won&#039;t be enough respect throughout the working relationship to make it worth it or positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never take spec work.  It brings nothing but trouble, and is usually a company looking for something for nothing.</p>
<p>If there isn&#8217;t enough respect to pay for the initial work, there won&#8217;t be enough respect throughout the working relationship to make it worth it or positive.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the way the post was framed, I forgot the third category of speculative work: the type that comes from an undercapitalized prospect.

At least in that instance, the risk is presented up-front, and can be considered in its proper context... but still amounts to &quot;probably not gonna get paid.&quot;  One&#039;s sanity is probably better served by investing time in a self-driven effort toward developing a source of recurring revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the way the post was framed, I forgot the third category of speculative work: the type that comes from an undercapitalized prospect.</p>
<p>At least in that instance, the risk is presented up-front, and can be considered in its proper context&#8230; but still amounts to &#8220;probably not gonna get paid.&#8221;  One&#8217;s sanity is probably better served by investing time in a self-driven effort toward developing a source of recurring revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have I been offered spec work?  Probably, but...

I say NO and put the incident out of mind without delay, so I can&#039;t recall any specific offers.

Conversations with friends and the application of my google-fu both yield the same result:

At best, prospects who request spec work don&#039;t know what they want and intend to figure it out at someone else&#039;s expense.

At worst, they&#039;re going out of their way to steal.

Either way, the &lt;strong&gt;only&lt;/strong&gt; appropriate response is &quot;figure out your needs, find a shop that makes a good fit, and good luck to you when it finally comes together.&quot;  No lectures, no whining, just a quick, quiet blow-off.

...And the politeness of the approach suggested by the NO!SPEC template is &lt;strong&gt;too&lt;/strong&gt; polite, in my opinion.  Clients who lack either clue or integrity (if not both) are going to be Bad Clients even if they come around and agree to a contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I been offered spec work?  Probably, but&#8230;</p>
<p>I say NO and put the incident out of mind without delay, so I can&#8217;t recall any specific offers.</p>
<p>Conversations with friends and the application of my google-fu both yield the same result:</p>
<p>At best, prospects who request spec work don&#8217;t know what they want and intend to figure it out at someone else&#8217;s expense.</p>
<p>At worst, they&#8217;re going out of their way to steal.</p>
<p>Either way, the <strong>only</strong> appropriate response is &#8220;figure out your needs, find a shop that makes a good fit, and good luck to you when it finally comes together.&#8221;  No lectures, no whining, just a quick, quiet blow-off.</p>
<p>&#8230;And the politeness of the approach suggested by the NO!SPEC template is <strong>too</strong> polite, in my opinion.  Clients who lack either clue or integrity (if not both) are going to be Bad Clients even if they come around and agree to a contract.</p>
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