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		<title>By: Loathing Yahoo Mail &#187; The American Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loathing Yahoo Mail &#187; The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;ve had the exact opposite experience with the 2 searches. Gmail is horrid, yahoo incredible.  Gmail only does exact match. I recently asked some folks for restaurant recommendations. I searched for &#039;restaurant.&#039; No luck finding the message in Gmail. Turns out that the messages only had &#039;restaurants&#039; in them. Yahoo not only does partial match, but also lets you filter results by sender, folder, date, attachments, and other message attributes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;ve had the exact opposite experience with the 2 searches. Gmail is horrid, yahoo incredible.  Gmail only does exact match. I recently asked some folks for restaurant recommendations. I searched for &#8216;restaurant.&#8217; No luck finding the message in Gmail. Turns out that the messages only had &#8216;restaurants&#8217; in them. Yahoo not only does partial match, but also lets you filter results by sender, folder, date, attachments, and other message attributes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Dobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Dobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two biggest things they need to fix are the spam filter and imap access. They&#039;re a long, LONG way behind Gmail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two biggest things they need to fix are the spam filter and imap access. They&#8217;re a long, LONG way behind Gmail.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McMullan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott McMullan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re interested in migrating everything to Google Apps and want some help, there are a bunch of folks here that will help for a very reasonable fee: 
http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=7&amp;orderBy=rating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re interested in migrating everything to Google Apps and want some help, there are a bunch of folks here that will help for a very reasonable fee:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=7&amp;orderBy=rating" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=7&amp;orderBy=rating</a></p>
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		<title>By: Logical Extremes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logical Extremes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One email address isn&#039;t sufficient for me. I use multiple Google and multiple Yahoo addresses, for different reasons:

http://logicalextremes.blogspot.com/2007/03/gmail-vs-yahoo-mail.html

But unless you work from multiple devices and don&#039;t have IMAP as an option, why not use a good desktop client instead of sucky web interfaces? I agree Yahoo&#039;s new web interface is bad, I login and select the old when when I have to access via the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One email address isn&#8217;t sufficient for me. I use multiple Google and multiple Yahoo addresses, for different reasons:</p>
<p><a href="http://logicalextremes.blogspot.com/2007/03/gmail-vs-yahoo-mail.html" rel="nofollow">http://logicalextremes.blogspot.com/2007/03/gmail-vs-yahoo-mail.html</a></p>
<p>But unless you work from multiple devices and don&#8217;t have IMAP as an option, why not use a good desktop client instead of sucky web interfaces? I agree Yahoo&#8217;s new web interface is bad, I login and select the old when when I have to access via the web.</p>
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		<title>By: druja</title>
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		<dc:creator>druja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I deal with Yahoo mail from the sending side.  Mailing lists, emails to customers, etc.  They are horrible consistently &#039;delaying&#039; emails to yahoo for long periods of time.  I&#039;ve tried to talk to Yahoo and get this fixed, but it seems impossible to get real help so far.  We are at the point where we have to tell people that we cannot guarantee delivery of emails to Yahoo and that the problem is on their end.

If you monitor NANOG the topic has come up for discussion a few times and it seems like it is a common problem.  Very large sites can see 10s of thousands of emails waiting for delivery to yahoo at times.  I&#039;ve seen similar discussions on a list concerning email administration in higher education.

We&#039;ve not encountered problems with hotmail or gmail.  We see problems with AOL maybe once a year, but they are very responsive.  We participate in anti-spam measures as requested (feedback loops, domainkeys, etc.)

Get rid of your Yahoo mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deal with Yahoo mail from the sending side.  Mailing lists, emails to customers, etc.  They are horrible consistently &#8216;delaying&#8217; emails to yahoo for long periods of time.  I&#8217;ve tried to talk to Yahoo and get this fixed, but it seems impossible to get real help so far.  We are at the point where we have to tell people that we cannot guarantee delivery of emails to Yahoo and that the problem is on their end.</p>
<p>If you monitor NANOG the topic has come up for discussion a few times and it seems like it is a common problem.  Very large sites can see 10s of thousands of emails waiting for delivery to yahoo at times.  I&#8217;ve seen similar discussions on a list concerning email administration in higher education.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve not encountered problems with hotmail or gmail.  We see problems with AOL maybe once a year, but they are very responsive.  We participate in anti-spam measures as requested (feedback loops, domainkeys, etc.)</p>
<p>Get rid of your Yahoo mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Accuosti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Accuosti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Close behind the search issue on the irritation scale is the incredibly un-intelligent spam blocker.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, so it&#039;s not just my imagination, then?

I swear, that alone is going to be what causes me to dump Yahoo. I actually pay for this entertainment, via the SBC ISP that I&#039;m using, and despite using up my allotted 50 filters (and what&#039;s up with the lame filtering, anyway? Even Outlook Express has better filtering than Yahoo) I still can&#039;t keep the v14gra and c1ali5 spam out of my inbox, or keep my customers from being spammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Close behind the search issue on the irritation scale is the incredibly un-intelligent spam blocker.</i></p>
<p>Ah, so it&#8217;s not just my imagination, then?</p>
<p>I swear, that alone is going to be what causes me to dump Yahoo. I actually pay for this entertainment, via the SBC ISP that I&#8217;m using, and despite using up my allotted 50 filters (and what&#8217;s up with the lame filtering, anyway? Even Outlook Express has better filtering than Yahoo) I still can&#8217;t keep the v14gra and c1ali5 spam out of my inbox, or keep my customers from being spammed.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made the change from yahoo to gmail about the same time. definitely don&#039;t regret it. I still check yahoo mail occasionally because some people refuse to update their contact list; it always has spam in the inbox. (which is why I switched)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made the change from yahoo to gmail about the same time. definitely don&#8217;t regret it. I still check yahoo mail occasionally because some people refuse to update their contact list; it always has spam in the inbox. (which is why I switched)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the last 3 years in a row, searching for emails in Yahoo starts having trouble finding/indexing all results around April 1.  I swear, a disgruntled engineer must have built this glitch into the system to cause havoc each April Fools Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last 3 years in a row, searching for emails in Yahoo starts having trouble finding/indexing all results around April 1.  I swear, a disgruntled engineer must have built this glitch into the system to cause havoc each April Fools Day.</p>
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		<title>By: headless</title>
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		<dc:creator>headless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch @ 7:44am. No - you&#039;re not the only one who doesn&#039;t like the Gmail interface, but perhaps you ARE the only one to be brave enough to say so!

I think it &quot;sucks&quot; as I believe my american cousins might put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch @ 7:44am. No &#8211; you&#8217;re not the only one who doesn&#8217;t like the Gmail interface, but perhaps you ARE the only one to be brave enough to say so!</p>
<p>I think it &#8220;sucks&#8221; as I believe my american cousins might put it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come you don&#039;t use a Mail program (Outlook, Thunderbird, Apple Mail, etc.)?

Me - I recently ditched Yahoo! mail (after using it for 10+ years).  Yahoo&#039;s POP servers were having such trouble - and I was paying $20/year for the privilege. 

I have my own domain/email (1&amp;1 - highly recommended) for work and Gmail for everything else.

I use a Mail client (Apple Mail) so the webmail interface isn&#039;t a consideration.  I really don&#039;t like Gmail interface (I think I may be the only one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come you don&#8217;t use a Mail program (Outlook, Thunderbird, Apple Mail, etc.)?</p>
<p>Me &#8211; I recently ditched Yahoo! mail (after using it for 10+ years).  Yahoo&#8217;s POP servers were having such trouble &#8211; and I was paying $20/year for the privilege. </p>
<p>I have my own domain/email (1&amp;1 &#8211; highly recommended) for work and Gmail for everything else.</p>
<p>I use a Mail client (Apple Mail) so the webmail interface isn&#8217;t a consideration.  I really don&#8217;t like Gmail interface (I think I may be the only one).</p>
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		<title>By: dhimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4. (Websters) Look up the word &#039;enormity.&#039; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4. (Websters) Look up the word &#8216;enormity.&#8217; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael A. Vickers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael A. Vickers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can add pop/imap accounts to Gmail and fetch mail from those accounts. I recently migrated ~1.5GB of mail from an Exchange account that way. It took the better part of a week because it would only grab about 200 messages at a time and then wait forever before checking again (I would generally check every so often and give it a kick if it was idle).

What was even more useful is that I wanted to keep the &quot;old&quot; mail out of my Gmail inbox until I could properly tag everything. For incoming mail from other accounts you can auto-tag and archive messages. 

Is your domain email hosted on Yahoo? That&#039;ll be an interesting puzzle getting email from a domain-hosted Yahoo account to a domain-hosted Gmail account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add pop/imap accounts to Gmail and fetch mail from those accounts. I recently migrated ~1.5GB of mail from an Exchange account that way. It took the better part of a week because it would only grab about 200 messages at a time and then wait forever before checking again (I would generally check every so often and give it a kick if it was idle).</p>
<p>What was even more useful is that I wanted to keep the &#8220;old&#8221; mail out of my Gmail inbox until I could properly tag everything. For incoming mail from other accounts you can auto-tag and archive messages. </p>
<p>Is your domain email hosted on Yahoo? That&#8217;ll be an interesting puzzle getting email from a domain-hosted Yahoo account to a domain-hosted Gmail account.</p>
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		<title>By: Pawel Grodzicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pawel Grodzicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jenneth!

1. (GMAIL) Setup your email and DNS domain settings by following Google&#039;s advice under Manage Domain &gt; Service Settings &gt; Email &gt; Instructions on how to activate Email

2. (YAHOO) Simply forward all your incomming mail from Yahoo to Gmail.

3. (GMAIL) Download all your email from Yahoo to Gmail through IMAP, POP3 (through Gmail) or using this tool http://code.google.com/p/google-email-uploader/

That&#039;s a bit short description but it shouldn&#039;t be difficult to complete these steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jenneth!</p>
<p>1. (GMAIL) Setup your email and DNS domain settings by following Google&#8217;s advice under Manage Domain &gt; Service Settings &gt; Email &gt; Instructions on how to activate Email</p>
<p>2. (YAHOO) Simply forward all your incomming mail from Yahoo to Gmail.</p>
<p>3. (GMAIL) Download all your email from Yahoo to Gmail through IMAP, POP3 (through Gmail) or using this tool <a href="http://code.google.com/p/google-email-uploader/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/google-email-uploader/</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit short description but it shouldn&#8217;t be difficult to complete these steps.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not auto forward all your yahoo mail to gmail, and then gradually start changing things over?

I love gmail, and despite Yahoo, and the more i use gmail, the more I realize that what they lack in the folder category, they make up in the powerful search functions, and the anti-spam blocking. Very rarely, if ever, do I get any spam through Gmail, and I used to get over 300 pieces of spam a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not auto forward all your yahoo mail to gmail, and then gradually start changing things over?</p>
<p>I love gmail, and despite Yahoo, and the more i use gmail, the more I realize that what they lack in the folder category, they make up in the powerful search functions, and the anti-spam blocking. Very rarely, if ever, do I get any spam through Gmail, and I used to get over 300 pieces of spam a day.</p>
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