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	<title>Comments on: Training the Web Worker Way: Moodle</title>
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		<title>By: Alison Cross</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-323847</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have built a small website for a friend who wants to run 3 on-line creative writing courses, each with a maximum of 8 students.  

She uses moodle at university and loves it, but I think that she should try out other completely free options to see how successful (or not) the courses will be.

Reading all the comments has confirmed my thoughts that there are other, entirely free ways that she could run these modules. 

Thank you very much, guys (and guyettes!) :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have built a small website for a friend who wants to run 3 on-line creative writing courses, each with a maximum of 8 students.  </p>
<p>She uses moodle at university and loves it, but I think that she should try out other completely free options to see how successful (or not) the courses will be.</p>
<p>Reading all the comments has confirmed my thoughts that there are other, entirely free ways that she could run these modules. </p>
<p>Thank you very much, guys (and guyettes!) :-)</p>
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		<title>By: JHG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really interesting, was not aware this was existing and top as freeware. Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really interesting, was not aware this was existing and top as freeware. Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster Forum</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-308790</link>
		<dc:creator>Webmaster Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with you that moodle is a great cms and i had seen alot of sites using them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with you that moodle is a great cms and i had seen alot of sites using them.</p>
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		<title>By: WebWorkerDaily &#187; Archive Moodle: a Flexible, Open Source Online Learning Platform &#171;</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-304774</link>
		<dc:creator>WebWorkerDaily &#187; Archive Moodle: a Flexible, Open Source Online Learning Platform &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bob Walsh noted here a while back, Moodle is particularly flexible as a training tool, and has been used to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-302120</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ninehub.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NineHub.com&lt;/a&gt; provides free Moodle hosting with unlimited disk space and bandwidth. Good enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried <a href="http://www.ninehub.com/" rel="nofollow">NineHub.com</a> provides free Moodle hosting with unlimited disk space and bandwidth. Good enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-297323</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to create and launch an online course in minutes, please check out eLearningZoom.com and start your FREE Trial.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to create and launch an online course in minutes, please check out eLearningZoom.com and start your FREE Trial.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eLearningZoom.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eLearningZoom.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: indre</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-295437</link>
		<dc:creator>indre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sobre mi ay poco soy mujer que vivo en espania migustaria abrir su propio negosio .nesesitava un producto que contiene elementos nesesarios.soy lituana no spyk inglich jei kas domina daugiau rasykit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sobre mi ay poco soy mujer que vivo en espania migustaria abrir su propio negosio .nesesitava un producto que contiene elementos nesesarios.soy lituana no spyk inglich jei kas domina daugiau rasykit.</p>
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		<title>By: PKayne</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-295265</link>
		<dc:creator>PKayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you serious MoodleMan? That  example (because one worked)  are horrendous, straight out of 1995 web design school. Moodle is ugly as the day is long. And as a modern day User interface designer (not the 1970 hacks that are ripping off people for mediocre web design) it&#039;s a down right nightmare of a technical system to properly design for.  CSS Zen gone horribly wrong. 

From the interface development side, its major drawback is the poor style coding within the html. The HTML is supposed to be the cake and CSS the icing. Well this cake had icing, nuts, screws, nails all in it. 90% of divs had a minimum of four classes and 1 id tag. And every other tag had inline styles in the HTML! You can&#039;t adjust that. Some inputs had styles some didn&#039;t. Absolute chaos. 

Any non-table neanderthal could see that the developers working on Moodle&#039;s front-end coding are just plain confused, because the thing is so freaking adhoc. The result is that it definitely limits creating an interface that is not only aesthetically appealing but aesthetically functional. Inclusion of   features that augment the user experience and enhance ease of use are truly difficult. 

But thank god it&#039;s not impossible to surmount this garbage mountain. I did it, so look out for finally a good design using Moodle in the next few months. Moodle needs to realise that not only content  is important but the way how you present the content makes it accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you serious MoodleMan? That  example (because one worked)  are horrendous, straight out of 1995 web design school. Moodle is ugly as the day is long. And as a modern day User interface designer (not the 1970 hacks that are ripping off people for mediocre web design) it&#8217;s a down right nightmare of a technical system to properly design for.  CSS Zen gone horribly wrong. </p>
<p>From the interface development side, its major drawback is the poor style coding within the html. The HTML is supposed to be the cake and CSS the icing. Well this cake had icing, nuts, screws, nails all in it. 90% of divs had a minimum of four classes and 1 id tag. And every other tag had inline styles in the HTML! You can&#8217;t adjust that. Some inputs had styles some didn&#8217;t. Absolute chaos. </p>
<p>Any non-table neanderthal could see that the developers working on Moodle&#8217;s front-end coding are just plain confused, because the thing is so freaking adhoc. The result is that it definitely limits creating an interface that is not only aesthetically appealing but aesthetically functional. Inclusion of   features that augment the user experience and enhance ease of use are truly difficult. </p>
<p>But thank god it&#8217;s not impossible to surmount this garbage mountain. I did it, so look out for finally a good design using Moodle in the next few months. Moodle needs to realise that not only content  is important but the way how you present the content makes it accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: MoodleMan (Julian Ridden)</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-291062</link>
		<dc:creator>MoodleMan (Julian Ridden)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moodle does not have to be ugly. Check out http://playpen.riverview.nsw.edu.au or http://ignition.riverview.nsw.edu.au for two examples that are not.

I have been a keen advocate of Moodle for some years now. It is customizable, extendable and one of the more intuitive systems I have come across. I would certainly say it is an Enterprise level product (Open University UK use it with tens of thousands of users) while having a zero cost point to purchase.

While not without it&#039;s flaws, I do think it is one of the better systems out there. Check out my blog for more details on what you can do when you invest some time with Moodle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moodle does not have to be ugly. Check out <a href="http://playpen.riverview.nsw.edu.au" rel="nofollow">http://playpen.riverview.nsw.edu.au</a> or <a href="http://ignition.riverview.nsw.edu.au" rel="nofollow">http://ignition.riverview.nsw.edu.au</a> for two examples that are not.</p>
<p>I have been a keen advocate of Moodle for some years now. It is customizable, extendable and one of the more intuitive systems I have come across. I would certainly say it is an Enterprise level product (Open University UK use it with tens of thousands of users) while having a zero cost point to purchase.</p>
<p>While not without it&#8217;s flaws, I do think it is one of the better systems out there. Check out my blog for more details on what you can do when you invest some time with Moodle</p>
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		<title>By: Mattias Wirf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattias Wirf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird comments about the UI, J Lane. If you are the one installing and administrating the platform, why not make your one theme and include the things you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird comments about the UI, J Lane. If you are the one installing and administrating the platform, why not make your one theme and include the things you want?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Turner</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-290678</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No product is perfect and personal preferences, business or the odd grievance or sour-grapes can influence opinion.

Anyway Moodle is definitely getting there, but don&#039;t take my subjective view let the world-wide statistics speak for themselves:

Registered sites: 41291
Courses: 1827266
Users: 	18793534
Teachers: 1878145
Enrolments: 20046737
Forum posts: 22067840
Resources: 13260588
Quiz questions: 16533755

This is on April 5th &#039;08 - see here for latest stats : http://moodle.org/stats/

I would be interested to hear about a more popular LMS/VLE - but I won&#039;t hold my breath! ;)

Cheers,

Jimmy T (UK)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No product is perfect and personal preferences, business or the odd grievance or sour-grapes can influence opinion.</p>
<p>Anyway Moodle is definitely getting there, but don&#8217;t take my subjective view let the world-wide statistics speak for themselves:</p>
<p>Registered sites: 41291<br />
Courses: 1827266<br />
Users: 	18793534<br />
Teachers: 1878145<br />
Enrolments: 20046737<br />
Forum posts: 22067840<br />
Resources: 13260588<br />
Quiz questions: 16533755</p>
<p>This is on April 5th &#8216;08 &#8211; see here for latest stats : <a href="http://moodle.org/stats/" rel="nofollow">http://moodle.org/stats/</a></p>
<p>I would be interested to hear about a more popular LMS/VLE &#8211; but I won&#8217;t hold my breath! ;)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jimmy T (UK)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Crash</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-290288</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Crash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been subjected to both webCT and moodle at university I can tell you first hand...

WebCT is *awful*
The lecturers can&#039;t use it, so it was plagued with broken links or missing items, it&#039;s slow, whinges when i use browsers that render things properly (opera and safari) and just generally looks hideous.

Moodle has a poor interface.
But at least it allows for a usable discussion, as opposed to webCT where it&#039;s antiquated system is so awful to use most people don&#039;t bother.

But all my lecturers could work out how to use moodle - they got notes up on time, many of them even actually used the discussion/wiki modules and provided extra support for students. Never ended up with things saying &quot;replace this heading&quot; like someone had taken a slab of copy pasta and dumped it on all the pages at the beginning of each semester (as was the case with webCT).

These points alone make it far better than webCT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been subjected to both webCT and moodle at university I can tell you first hand&#8230;</p>
<p>WebCT is *awful*<br />
The lecturers can&#8217;t use it, so it was plagued with broken links or missing items, it&#8217;s slow, whinges when i use browsers that render things properly (opera and safari) and just generally looks hideous.</p>
<p>Moodle has a poor interface.<br />
But at least it allows for a usable discussion, as opposed to webCT where it&#8217;s antiquated system is so awful to use most people don&#8217;t bother.</p>
<p>But all my lecturers could work out how to use moodle &#8211; they got notes up on time, many of them even actually used the discussion/wiki modules and provided extra support for students. Never ended up with things saying &#8220;replace this heading&#8221; like someone had taken a slab of copy pasta and dumped it on all the pages at the beginning of each semester (as was the case with webCT).</p>
<p>These points alone make it far better than webCT.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huston</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 Lane is just plain wrong about Moodle.  I have shown and shared moodle with lots of teachers and they love it!  It is rock solid stable, its features just work, and has many options for different purposes.

I used to design my own course web site with Dreamweaver and my own ISP.  I thought it worked great.  But when I tried ti train non-tech people on it, they all gave up because it was al just too complicated.  Moodle, otoh, is fun and easy to use.

I use it to post lots of content--in MS Office format, pdf, or easy to create web pages.  post assignments on a calendar, create links to web contact, give online quizzes, and have students upload their assignments and use the connected gradebook, too.  All these features were easy to learn and work handily.  The discussion boards are GREAT!  They are local, not centralized, so it&#039;s much easier to keep discussions separate.  Complex discussion boards are confusing to many students.

Moodle is cautiously exploring the social network approach, but, to be frank, moodle&#039;s strength is for teacher-moderated sites.  Use Ning if you want the benefits of a social network for your class--but be prepared to give up the educational features built into Moodle.

Moodle&#039;s default UI is not beautiful, but there are many themes you can choose for free and for a small fee and they are easy to install.

I think 3 Lane has it all wrong.  My experience has been just the opposite of his/hers.  I think the original article had it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 Lane is just plain wrong about Moodle.  I have shown and shared moodle with lots of teachers and they love it!  It is rock solid stable, its features just work, and has many options for different purposes.</p>
<p>I used to design my own course web site with Dreamweaver and my own ISP.  I thought it worked great.  But when I tried ti train non-tech people on it, they all gave up because it was al just too complicated.  Moodle, otoh, is fun and easy to use.</p>
<p>I use it to post lots of content&#8211;in MS Office format, pdf, or easy to create web pages.  post assignments on a calendar, create links to web contact, give online quizzes, and have students upload their assignments and use the connected gradebook, too.  All these features were easy to learn and work handily.  The discussion boards are GREAT!  They are local, not centralized, so it&#8217;s much easier to keep discussions separate.  Complex discussion boards are confusing to many students.</p>
<p>Moodle is cautiously exploring the social network approach, but, to be frank, moodle&#8217;s strength is for teacher-moderated sites.  Use Ning if you want the benefits of a social network for your class&#8211;but be prepared to give up the educational features built into Moodle.</p>
<p>Moodle&#8217;s default UI is not beautiful, but there are many themes you can choose for free and for a small fee and they are easy to install.</p>
<p>I think 3 Lane has it all wrong.  My experience has been just the opposite of his/hers.  I think the original article had it right.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-03-28 &#124; Ed Tech Hacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-03-28 &#124; Ed Tech Hacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Web Worker Daily » Archive Training the Web Worker Way: Moodle « If you’re toying with the idea of getting over to the teaching side of the trainer/student relationship, you find a near inexhaustible trove of moodle sites, including videos. You can also try out moodle locally on Mac or Windows, or you can play with i (tags: moodle lms cms web2.0 teaching) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Web Worker Daily » Archive Training the Web Worker Way: Moodle « If you’re toying with the idea of getting over to the teaching side of the trainer/student relationship, you find a near inexhaustible trove of moodle sites, including videos. You can also try out moodle locally on Mac or Windows, or you can play with i (tags: moodle lms cms web2.0 teaching) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reggie</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/03/27/training-the-web-worker-way-moodle/#comment-290226</link>
		<dc:creator>Reggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d agree that Moodle&#039;s UI is indeed ugly. However as someone in the K12 level, it offers features that allow us to actually use an LMS. Privacy concerns by parents/admins/teachers at times handcuff users. 

Moodle is &#039;free&#039;- or kind of (not including support, hosting ect). However it allows teachers to assess, to organize classes and to facilitate discussion easily. Sure, it would be nice to give each student a blog, discussion board account and Gmail account. However unless you can host in house, restrictions prevent you from that. Get a moodle installation going and you&#039;re good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree that Moodle&#8217;s UI is indeed ugly. However as someone in the K12 level, it offers features that allow us to actually use an LMS. Privacy concerns by parents/admins/teachers at times handcuff users. </p>
<p>Moodle is &#8216;free&#8217;- or kind of (not including support, hosting ect). However it allows teachers to assess, to organize classes and to facilitate discussion easily. Sure, it would be nice to give each student a blog, discussion board account and Gmail account. However unless you can host in house, restrictions prevent you from that. Get a moodle installation going and you&#8217;re good.</p>
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		<title>By: use your moodle &#171; small dots</title>
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		<dc:creator>use your moodle &#171; small dots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 27, 2008 by BethDunn    Free, open-source course management system Moodle is getting attention, as well it should if it&#8217;s what it seems to be: a cost-effective (nothing is ever really [...]</description>
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