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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-302539</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not expecting anyone to duplicate my system, just saying that the weaknesses of GTD: Especially lack of daily structure can be aided by routines, that way you DON&#039;T have to skip exercise and personal development, like David does so often when he&#039;s working on a project.

Further, Todoodlist is a fun way of writing a list, and working off of it. And it&#039;s surprisingly logical.

I had to break up my monster comment into several comments because bigger ones were &quot;discarded&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not expecting anyone to duplicate my system, just saying that the weaknesses of GTD: Especially lack of daily structure can be aided by routines, that way you DON&#8217;T have to skip exercise and personal development, like David does so often when he&#8217;s working on a project.</p>
<p>Further, Todoodlist is a fun way of writing a list, and working off of it. And it&#8217;s surprisingly logical.</p>
<p>I had to break up my monster comment into several comments because bigger ones were &#8220;discarded&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-302538</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a complex setup?

Kind of. But the routines really simplify it. You gotta do stuff in the morning and evening anyway... might as well be effective stuff!

I use acronyms for writing these routines and standard subtasks out anyway, so it hardly takes anytime at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a complex setup?</p>
<p>Kind of. But the routines really simplify it. You gotta do stuff in the morning and evening anyway&#8230; might as well be effective stuff!</p>
<p>I use acronyms for writing these routines and standard subtasks out anyway, so it hardly takes anytime at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-302537</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I think there&#039;s magic in this, that the universe will &quot;manifest&quot; what I want? No, that&#039;s a bunch of nonsense. BUT! Does it focus my thoughts over the week and especially as the week goes on to a good habit, quality, or idea I want to better?

You damn right.

Unlike Franklin, I don&#039;t choose 13 subjects in advance and rotate them 4 times a year. I figure what I want to work on will change, so I just pick a &quot;self motivator&quot; each week. If I wanted to, I could work with one for more than a week, but a week of concentration usually works wonders and the idea will often come to mind when needed in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I think there&#8217;s magic in this, that the universe will &#8220;manifest&#8221; what I want? No, that&#8217;s a bunch of nonsense. BUT! Does it focus my thoughts over the week and especially as the week goes on to a good habit, quality, or idea I want to better?</p>
<p>You damn right.</p>
<p>Unlike Franklin, I don&#8217;t choose 13 subjects in advance and rotate them 4 times a year. I figure what I want to work on will change, so I just pick a &#8220;self motivator&#8221; each week. If I wanted to, I could work with one for more than a week, but a week of concentration usually works wonders and the idea will often come to mind when needed in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-302536</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now what&#039;s this Ben Franklin stuff?

He had a personal development plan where he would focus on 1 and only 1 area of his life a week. That&#039;s what I just started doing and it&#039;s been wonderful.

Every week in my weekly review I choose a &quot;self motivator&quot; as W. Clement Stone called it, and I work on it for 10 minutes a day: 5 minutes with my morning routine and 5 minutes with my evening routine. Basically, it&#039;s an &quot;affirmation&quot;. I say it  50x in the morning finding myself getting more excited at the end than at the beginning. And I write it down 15x (at the end of the day)... which is what Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what&#8217;s this Ben Franklin stuff?</p>
<p>He had a personal development plan where he would focus on 1 and only 1 area of his life a week. That&#8217;s what I just started doing and it&#8217;s been wonderful.</p>
<p>Every week in my weekly review I choose a &#8220;self motivator&#8221; as W. Clement Stone called it, and I work on it for 10 minutes a day: 5 minutes with my morning routine and 5 minutes with my evening routine. Basically, it&#8217;s an &#8220;affirmation&#8221;. I say it  50x in the morning finding myself getting more excited at the end than at the beginning. And I write it down 15x (at the end of the day)&#8230; which is what Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, did.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-302535</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every week I create a new Todoodlist with what I plan on working on in the following week. And there&#039;s also a daily Todoodlist with my routines, plus 1-3 &quot;Most Important Task(s)&quot; per ZTD, and any subtasks associated with them per Todoodlist.

It&#039;s a lot simpler and quicker than it sounds. I find this type of list is faster to write than a flat list because I just put the stuff wherever, then draw connecting lines and circle only the next action per task/routine.

For my Project list, I DON&#039;T list an outcome. In other words, instead of trying to write the perfect goal statement for it, I&#039;ll just list the project name like &quot;Car&quot;, &quot;Earnings per Hour&quot; (with the assumption I want them as high as possible!), and &quot;Toastmasters&quot;. I also keep the canonical Waiting For, Someday/Maybe lists, and generally review them once a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every week I create a new Todoodlist with what I plan on working on in the following week. And there&#8217;s also a daily Todoodlist with my routines, plus 1-3 &#8220;Most Important Task(s)&#8221; per ZTD, and any subtasks associated with them per Todoodlist.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot simpler and quicker than it sounds. I find this type of list is faster to write than a flat list because I just put the stuff wherever, then draw connecting lines and circle only the next action per task/routine.</p>
<p>For my Project list, I DON&#8217;T list an outcome. In other words, instead of trying to write the perfect goal statement for it, I&#8217;ll just list the project name like &#8220;Car&#8221;, &#8220;Earnings per Hour&#8221; (with the assumption I want them as high as possible!), and &#8220;Toastmasters&#8221;. I also keep the canonical Waiting For, Someday/Maybe lists, and generally review them once a week.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Likewise, I have an evening routine, and eating healthy is its own routine. These all go on my daily plan, which is quick and fun to put together. Writing it is part of my evening routine.

For lists, I use Todoodlist. It&#039;s awesome. Paper and pen/pencil. It&#039;s a non-linear visual way of mind mapping tasks. Super quick to write and &quot;context&quot; is taken care of by writing dotted lines across the page connecting tasks in this way. Otherwise, it&#039;s squares, circles, and lines. You really should google it and check it out if you&#039;re curious. Otherwise, go with what you&#039;re doing now. There&#039;s nothing wrong with a proper list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likewise, I have an evening routine, and eating healthy is its own routine. These all go on my daily plan, which is quick and fun to put together. Writing it is part of my evening routine.</p>
<p>For lists, I use Todoodlist. It&#8217;s awesome. Paper and pen/pencil. It&#8217;s a non-linear visual way of mind mapping tasks. Super quick to write and &#8220;context&#8221; is taken care of by writing dotted lines across the page connecting tasks in this way. Otherwise, it&#8217;s squares, circles, and lines. You really should google it and check it out if you&#8217;re curious. Otherwise, go with what you&#8217;re doing now. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with a proper list.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Dollis</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-302533</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Dollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use a hybrid GTD/ZTD/Todoodlist/Benjamin Franlinish W. Clement Stone &quot;Self Motivator&quot; System... 

David Allen started the search for info on how to get my life in order and I&#039;m thrilled with it. More and more these habits have become automatic.

Basically, I do GTD, but I&#039;ve tweaked parts of it. Since I&#039;m quite a linear thinker and tend to bite off more than I can chew, getting overwhelmed and disappointing myself, these other elements added to the system have made a big improvement.

I use GTD in the sense that I have an &quot;Outcome&quot; list: basically, the broad strategic directions for my life... things like &quot;Be financially independent&quot; &quot;Help other people&quot;, &quot;Have rewarding friendships&quot;, as well as other elements like health, fitness.  Often I don&#039;t even have a project under these, many are handled with daily routines.

I agree with Zen Habits that GTD is lacking a lot of structure, which can be helpful to people. It&#039;s been said that the first hour is the rudder of the day. So I have a morning routine, which takes an hour long and is mostly health/fitness/personal development. It&#039;s a fabulous start to the day and puts me a long way toward achieving many of my outcomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a hybrid GTD/ZTD/Todoodlist/Benjamin Franlinish W. Clement Stone &#8220;Self Motivator&#8221; System&#8230; </p>
<p>David Allen started the search for info on how to get my life in order and I&#8217;m thrilled with it. More and more these habits have become automatic.</p>
<p>Basically, I do GTD, but I&#8217;ve tweaked parts of it. Since I&#8217;m quite a linear thinker and tend to bite off more than I can chew, getting overwhelmed and disappointing myself, these other elements added to the system have made a big improvement.</p>
<p>I use GTD in the sense that I have an &#8220;Outcome&#8221; list: basically, the broad strategic directions for my life&#8230; things like &#8220;Be financially independent&#8221; &#8220;Help other people&#8221;, &#8220;Have rewarding friendships&#8221;, as well as other elements like health, fitness.  Often I don&#8217;t even have a project under these, many are handled with daily routines.</p>
<p>I agree with Zen Habits that GTD is lacking a lot of structure, which can be helpful to people. It&#8217;s been said that the first hour is the rudder of the day. So I have a morning routine, which takes an hour long and is mostly health/fitness/personal development. It&#8217;s a fabulous start to the day and puts me a long way toward achieving many of my outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: GTD Global Summit! &#171; Geeks Guide To GTD</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-297208</link>
		<dc:creator>GTD Global Summit! &#171; Geeks Guide To GTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Is The Hype Over GTD Still Going Strong? - Practical advice on personal development, productivity and GTD</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-289552</link>
		<dc:creator>Is The Hype Over GTD Still Going Strong? - Practical advice on personal development, productivity and GTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and our current perception of productivity continuing to evolve, GTD is still strong and a follow-up book is in the works which will be intriguing to say the least. David Allen was even on TV recently to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Allen: GTD is More Than Just Lists [Getting Things Done] &#187; Lifehacker, tips and downloads for getting things done</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-289383</link>
		<dc:creator>David Allen: GTD is More Than Just Lists [Getting Things Done] &#187; Lifehacker, tips and downloads for getting things done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] idea of how and why you might want to integrate GTD philosophies into more aspects of your life. David Allen Part 3: Really Getting it Done is Not Just Lists [Web Worker [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Satisfy Me : What I've read this week or so (through 030808)</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/02/26/david-allen-part-3-really-getting-it-done-is-not-just-lists/#comment-289378</link>
		<dc:creator>Satisfy Me : What I've read this week or so (through 030808)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Allen Part 3: Really Getting it Done is Not Just Lists (Web Worker Daily) -- Weblog Web Worker Daily has an interview with Getting Things Done author David Allen... saved by 139 other people [...]</description>
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		<title>By: vista bbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>vista bbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Good advice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Good advice</p>
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		<title>By: rich2912</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich2912</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Good advice. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Good advice. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: rich2912</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich2912</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Good advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Good advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see David mention the _Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience_ book. Staying in the zone - in &#039;flow&#039; - whether it be mastering GTD or anything else in life - is a matter of balancing skills and challenges. Too much challenge = overwhelmed. Too much skill = boredom. The right balance of both = flow. The problem people initially face with GTD is that the challenge to learn the system seems overwhelming at first; but once they learn some initial skills and habits, the experience starts to become more enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see David mention the _Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience_ book. Staying in the zone &#8211; in &#8216;flow&#8217; &#8211; whether it be mastering GTD or anything else in life &#8211; is a matter of balancing skills and challenges. Too much challenge = overwhelmed. Too much skill = boredom. The right balance of both = flow. The problem people initially face with GTD is that the challenge to learn the system seems overwhelming at first; but once they learn some initial skills and habits, the experience starts to become more enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: His Daveness Speakeths&#8230; &#171; Now! Leadership!</title>
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		<dc:creator>His Daveness Speakeths&#8230; &#171; Now! Leadership!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GTD an empty head? David Allen shares his thoughts about the state of your mind and his new book on Web Worker Daily&#8230; There’s still very few people, even people that you think do GTD are really, really, [...]</description>
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