Comments on: Open Thread: is Network Solutions Evil? http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/ Rebooting the workforce Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:11:38 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Network Solutions (NetSol) ransom at Ambrand Dot Com http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-289295 Network Solutions (NetSol) ransom at Ambrand Dot Com Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:12:54 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-289295 [...] and check if a random domain is available (I tried f5ke00gpl.com and it was). Sit back for 5 minutes. Then do a WHOIS using your favourite third party service and you will see that NetSol have [...] [...] and check if a random domain is available (I tried f5ke00gpl.com and it was). Sit back for 5 minutes. Then do a WHOIS using your favourite third party service and you will see that NetSol have [...]

]]> By: Dan http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-288616 Dan Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:28:28 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-288616 Nice to see they, and ICANN, are going to PAY DEARLY for what they've been doing. Hooray for the lawsuit! Nice to see they, and ICANN, are going to PAY DEARLY for what they’ve been doing.

Hooray for the lawsuit!

]]> By: Web Worker Daily » Archive Network Solutions and ICANN Sued for Domain Tasting « http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-288587 Web Worker Daily » Archive Network Solutions and ICANN Sued for Domain Tasting « Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:04:56 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-288587 [...] 26th, 2008 (7:03am) Judi Sohn No Comments Last month we asked you if Network Solutions was being evil. Network Solutions “registers” domains that people [...] [...] 26th, 2008 (7:03am) Judi Sohn No Comments Last month we asked you if Network Solutions was being evil. Network Solutions “registers” domains that people [...]

]]> By: The Evil Still Lurks « Unraveling Obfuscation http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-288042 The Evil Still Lurks « Unraveling Obfuscation Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:57:58 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-288042 [...] thought that something was going to get solved in the whole controversy over Network Solutions frontrunning domain names when someone queries on them. Sadly, no. As I remember the dustup from a month or so [...] [...] thought that something was going to get solved in the whole controversy over Network Solutions frontrunning domain names when someone queries on them. Sadly, no. As I remember the dustup from a month or so [...]

]]> By: netsol sucks http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-286614 netsol sucks Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:52:27 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-286614 netsol is made up of a bunch of scumbags .. end of thread. netsol is made up of a bunch of scumbags .. end of thread.

]]> By: Allison http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-286600 Allison Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:35:02 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-286600 Shashib, I agree with Bob Walsh. I was price shopping today and paid for my domain at godaddy when, much to my surprise, network solutions had hijacked it. I will NOW proceed to badmouth network solutions to everyone I possibly can until I hear they've stopped this practice ENTIRELY. It's ridiculous, doesn't make me want to get my domain from network solutions, and now I apparently can't get it any other way. Shashib, I agree with Bob Walsh. I was price shopping today and paid for my domain at godaddy when, much to my surprise, network solutions had hijacked it. I will NOW proceed to badmouth network solutions to everyone I possibly can until I hear they’ve stopped this practice ENTIRELY. It’s ridiculous, doesn’t make me want to get my domain from network solutions, and now I apparently can’t get it any other way.

]]> By: Bob Walsh http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-285830 Bob Walsh Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:38:35 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-285830 Sorry Shashib, that doesn't cut it in my book, specifically "Only Domains searched on the networksolutions.com homepage and domain product page will be reserved." Network Solutions does not make domains - ICAAN does. If I go to say Amazon and look at a book in Amazon's system, does that give Amazon an exclusive right to sell me that book? Of course not. The furthest down this road I can see without it going crooked is if NetSol offers a prospective customer the option (free or paid - up to you) of reserving a domain, and the customer can say yes, or no. Sorry Shashib, that doesn’t cut it in my book, specifically “Only Domains searched on the networksolutions.com homepage and domain product page will be reserved.”

Network Solutions does not make domains – ICAAN does. If I go to say Amazon and look at a book in Amazon’s system, does that give Amazon an exclusive right to sell me that book? Of course not.

The furthest down this road I can see without it going crooked is if NetSol offers a prospective customer the option (free or paid – up to you) of reserving a domain, and the customer can say yes, or no.

]]> By: Mary Baum http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284927 Mary Baum Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:30:24 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284927 I just go to godaddy.com and search for availabilities. At nine or ten bucks a year, I'm going to wind up registering whatever I find, probably, so why do it in a whois search? My other favorite tool is the pauper's trademark search, aka Google -- if a creatively spelled word comes back with no hits on Google, it's probably good to go for a variety of uses. I just go to godaddy.com and search for availabilities. At nine or ten bucks a year, I’m going to wind up registering whatever I find, probably, so why do it in a whois search?

My other favorite tool is the pauper’s trademark search, aka Google — if a creatively spelled word comes back with no hits on Google, it’s probably good to go for a variety of uses.

]]> By: chunkie http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284917 chunkie Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:18:39 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284917 Wow, this is a truly HORRIBLE practice by NetSol. So what other methods/websites are people using that are private, reputable ways to do a whois search for open domain names? Just by a brief browse here, people are saying they use "other ways" to check domain availability...but no specifics. What "other ways"...via the command-line/terminal? desktop gui apps to do the same? Or are there reputable websites to do this? Wow, this is a truly HORRIBLE practice by NetSol.

So what other methods/websites are people using that are private, reputable ways to do a whois search for open domain names?

Just by a brief browse here, people are saying they use “other ways” to check domain availability…but no specifics. What “other ways”…via the command-line/terminal? desktop gui apps to do the same? Or are there reputable websites to do this?

]]> By: Shashib http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284902 Shashib Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:46:30 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284902 Hi Bob, I took this issue and discussed it. Any search on the Whois page now should not be reserved. Sorry that “bigyellowtimer.com” got reserved. I believe we were running a a/b test which we have stopped. Here are the updates we made * Domains searched in the WHOIS page will not be reserved. * Only Domains searched on the networksolutions.com homepage and domain product page will be reserved. * We added additional customer notification to the NetworkSolutions.com homepage. * Information on reserved domains is not publicly available in the zone file (Jay Westerdal confirmed it and blogged about in his post today http://blog.domaintools.com/2008/01/network-solutions-is-getting-better/ ) Thank you everyone for giving us feedback and suggestions. Shashi Hi Bob,

I took this issue and discussed it. Any search on the Whois page now should not be reserved. Sorry that “bigyellowtimer.com” got reserved. I believe we were running a a/b test which we have stopped. Here are the updates we made

* Domains searched in the WHOIS page will not be reserved.
* Only Domains searched on the networksolutions.com homepage and domain product page will be reserved.
* We added additional customer notification to the NetworkSolutions.com homepage.
* Information on reserved domains is not publicly available in the zone file (Jay Westerdal confirmed it and blogged about in his post today http://blog.domaintools.com/2008/01/network-solutions-is-getting-better/ )

Thank you everyone for giving us feedback and suggestions.

Shashi

]]> By: Noelle http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284776 Noelle Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:39:58 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284776 I heard about this at the beginning of last year, and this is why I will never use network solutions!!!! If they are in fact associated with Go daddy, a very fast transfer will be in order. I heard about this at the beginning of last year, and this is why I will never use network solutions!!!! If they are in fact associated with Go daddy, a very fast transfer will be in order.

]]> By: splint http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284580 splint Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:52:48 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284580 They just did it again, I did the same thing with BLUEBOGFROG.COM (something I just made up out of thin air. It was available at GoDaddy, then I searched for it at Network Solutions, and now suddenly, it's not available with GoDaddy. They just did it again, I did the same thing with BLUEBOGFROG.COM (something I just made up out of thin air. It was available at GoDaddy, then I searched for it at Network Solutions, and now suddenly, it’s not available with GoDaddy.

]]> By: Bob Walsh http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284532 Bob Walsh Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:24:22 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284532 shashib, Here's what I did to test this: 1. made up a domain: bigyellowtimer.com 2. went to godaddy.com, checked if it was available. It was. 3. went to NetSol. Checked if it was available. It was. 4. went back to godaddy. bigyellowtimer.com had become unavailable. Attempted whois at godaddy - got back: registration information unavailable. BTW, Just checked now: bigyellowtimer.com is available at Network Solutions. At godaddy.com, I get that it's already taken and the whois says: Registrant: This Domain is available at NetworkSolutions.com 13681 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 300 HERNDON, VA 20171 US shashib,

Here’s what I did to test this:
1. made up a domain: bigyellowtimer.com
2. went to godaddy.com, checked if it was available. It was.
3. went to NetSol. Checked if it was available. It was.
4. went back to godaddy. bigyellowtimer.com had become unavailable. Attempted whois at godaddy – got back: registration information unavailable.

BTW, Just checked now: bigyellowtimer.com is available at Network Solutions. At godaddy.com, I get that it’s already taken and the whois says:

Registrant:
This Domain is available at NetworkSolutions.com
13681 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 300
HERNDON, VA 20171
US

]]> By: Winston http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284515 Winston Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:55:19 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284515 This happened to me about a year ago when my wife's domain name had expired (a story in itself). They sat on it and would "renew" its lock in apparently five day chunks so I put in a "on hold" order with another registrar and grabbed it in between their renewal hijack cycle. This happened to me about a year ago when my wife’s domain name had expired (a story in itself). They sat on it and would “renew” its lock in apparently five day chunks so I put in a “on hold” order with another registrar and grabbed it in between their renewal hijack cycle.

]]> By: William http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284482 William Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:07:15 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284482 I think I read that Network Solutions owns or is associated with GoDaddy. Anyone know if they were doing this, too? I think I read that Network Solutions owns or is associated with GoDaddy. Anyone know if they were doing this, too?

]]> By: ttdog http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284461 ttdog Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:38:44 +0000 http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/14/open-thread-is-network-solutions-evil/#comment-284461 I was looking through Netsol's site and to tell you the truth - some people said they are buying their domains through their host. If you get hosting at Netsol the domains are actually FREE! I was looking through Netsol’s site and to tell you the truth – some people said they are buying their domains through their host. If you get hosting at Netsol the domains are actually FREE!

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