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	<title>Comments on: Competition for Mac Task Management Heats Up</title>
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		<title>By: Rod Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/11/29/competition-for-mac-task-management-heats-up/#comment-278174</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who like Backpack and want the best of both worlds (web and desktop), you should look at PackRat. It&#039;s a desktop client for Backpack. You can find it at www.infinitenil.com/packrat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who like Backpack and want the best of both worlds (web and desktop), you should look at PackRat. It&#8217;s a desktop client for Backpack. You can find it at <a href="http://www.infinitenil.com/packrat" rel="nofollow">http://www.infinitenil.com/packrat</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of these apps sound promising. I currently use Outlook with a Treo phone as a mobile solution, but I find that my paper based &lt;a href=&quot;http://successbeginstoday.org/wordpress/2006/05/five-minute-organizer/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Walleteer &lt;/a&gt; and daily route sheet are my GTD staples.

With these apps, the Mac side of my Macbook may now become my GTD solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of these apps sound promising. I currently use Outlook with a Treo phone as a mobile solution, but I find that my paper based <a href="http://successbeginstoday.org/wordpress/2006/05/five-minute-organizer/" rel="nofollow">Walleteer </a> and daily route sheet are my GTD staples.</p>
<p>With these apps, the Mac side of my Macbook may now become my GTD solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulises</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used iGTD for a few months on and off and couldn&#039;t really fully wrap my head around it - it just got too complicated for me.

For the past week, I&#039;ve been using an alpha version of Things and I have to say that I REALLY like it. Its simple, smart and beautiful! The guys at culture code have also been real good at getting back to me via email regarding my feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used iGTD for a few months on and off and couldn&#8217;t really fully wrap my head around it &#8211; it just got too complicated for me.</p>
<p>For the past week, I&#8217;ve been using an alpha version of Things and I have to say that I REALLY like it. Its simple, smart and beautiful! The guys at culture code have also been real good at getting back to me via email regarding my feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Flood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Flood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me as another happy Backpack user.  I really like what I&#039;ve seen of OmniFocus but I like being able to get to my to do list from work, home and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me as another happy Backpack user.  I really like what I&#8217;ve seen of OmniFocus but I like being able to get to my to do list from work, home and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Judi Sohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judi Sohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about Adobe AIR. I really like what I see so far with it as a &quot;best of both worlds&quot; solution...in the foreseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about Adobe AIR. I really like what I see so far with it as a &#8220;best of both worlds&#8221; solution&#8230;in the foreseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: Peldi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peldi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, thanks for answering. Adobe&#039;s AIR is a platform that allows people to build apps that answer most of your concerns (it can be always on, it can have notifications, it supports online/offline, it&#039;s plenty fast), effectively bridging the gap from traditional web 2.0 ajax-y apps and desktop apps, but it hasn&#039;t even shipped yet, so maybe I should just wait a year or two for developers to catch up... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, thanks for answering. Adobe&#8217;s AIR is a platform that allows people to build apps that answer most of your concerns (it can be always on, it can have notifications, it supports online/offline, it&#8217;s plenty fast), effectively bridging the gap from traditional web 2.0 ajax-y apps and desktop apps, but it hasn&#8217;t even shipped yet, so maybe I should just wait a year or two for developers to catch up&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Judi Sohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judi Sohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peldi, everything you say is true. It&#039;s a tradeoff. Here&#039;s why I ultimately prefer desktop apps for task management: 

* I can add tasks as soon as they&#039;re on my mind with a keystroke, from wherever on my computer I happen to be working, rather than waiting to load a browser page.
* My browser environment tends to be in flux, with tabs opening and closing all the time. I need my task management (and email) to be always persistent.
* Desktop task managers tend to have reminder systems that work outside of browsers/email. I want them to pop in my face when a deadline looms, not just send me a message.
* I can work in a desktop application regardless of the state of my Internet connection (Google Gears isn&#039;t there yet).
* Desktop applications tend to be faster and have more flexible design than browser apps.
* Desktop applications better integrate with the operating system...in the case of the Mac OS X applications, they may work with Spotlight, Mail or iCal. Browser applications tend to only work with other browser applications.

I&#039;ve tried many of the web apps, and I think many are outstanding in their own right. But I tend to abandon them eventually, sticking with something that&#039;s more accessible while I&#039;m working.

Things does promise an XML file format that may address some of the issues you mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peldi, everything you say is true. It&#8217;s a tradeoff. Here&#8217;s why I ultimately prefer desktop apps for task management: </p>
<p>* I can add tasks as soon as they&#8217;re on my mind with a keystroke, from wherever on my computer I happen to be working, rather than waiting to load a browser page.<br />
* My browser environment tends to be in flux, with tabs opening and closing all the time. I need my task management (and email) to be always persistent.<br />
* Desktop task managers tend to have reminder systems that work outside of browsers/email. I want them to pop in my face when a deadline looms, not just send me a message.<br />
* I can work in a desktop application regardless of the state of my Internet connection (Google Gears isn&#8217;t there yet).<br />
* Desktop applications tend to be faster and have more flexible design than browser apps.<br />
* Desktop applications better integrate with the operating system&#8230;in the case of the Mac OS X applications, they may work with Spotlight, Mail or iCal. Browser applications tend to only work with other browser applications.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried many of the web apps, and I think many are outstanding in their own right. But I tend to abandon them eventually, sticking with something that&#8217;s more accessible while I&#8217;m working.</p>
<p>Things does promise an XML file format that may address some of the issues you mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Peldi</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/11/29/competition-for-mac-task-management-heats-up/#comment-242122</link>
		<dc:creator>Peldi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As with email, I’ve found that I prefer using a stand-alone application for task management instead of a browser-based one.&quot;

Could you please add more color about that? I looked both at Things and Omnifocus, and both times I was amazed at the fact that people are still writing applications that are not cross-platform, that I can only access from one computer, with my data saved only locally...it just seems silly when you could build the same thing as a RIA / web app.

If it&#039;s not an RIA, why bother? Dealing with copying files, needing your own pc/mac to do work and dealing with the risk of losing your data is over (or at least there&#039;s no reason in my mind why it shouldn&#039;t be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As with email, I’ve found that I prefer using a stand-alone application for task management instead of a browser-based one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you please add more color about that? I looked both at Things and Omnifocus, and both times I was amazed at the fact that people are still writing applications that are not cross-platform, that I can only access from one computer, with my data saved only locally&#8230;it just seems silly when you could build the same thing as a RIA / web app.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not an RIA, why bother? Dealing with copying files, needing your own pc/mac to do work and dealing with the risk of losing your data is over (or at least there&#8217;s no reason in my mind why it shouldn&#8217;t be).</p>
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		<title>By: Judi Sohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judi Sohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, I&#039;ve been doing what I like to call a &quot;Kool-Aid free&quot; version of GTD for the past couple of years. It&#039;s more complicated and structured than basic list management, but it&#039;s not nearly as rigid as something like Midnight Inbox requires. Sometimes I apply contexts, sometimes not. Sometimes I tie things together into projects, sometimes not. 

For me, it comes down to a balance between how much time I&#039;m spending &lt;em&gt;doing&lt;/em&gt; stuff as opposed to how much time I&#039;m spending &lt;em&gt;managing&lt;/em&gt; the stuff I&#039;m doing. Personally, I&#039;ve found that true GTD takes more babysitting than I&#039;m able to give it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, I&#8217;ve been doing what I like to call a &#8220;Kool-Aid free&#8221; version of GTD for the past couple of years. It&#8217;s more complicated and structured than basic list management, but it&#8217;s not nearly as rigid as something like Midnight Inbox requires. Sometimes I apply contexts, sometimes not. Sometimes I tie things together into projects, sometimes not. </p>
<p>For me, it comes down to a balance between how much time I&#8217;m spending <em>doing</em> stuff as opposed to how much time I&#8217;m spending <em>managing</em> the stuff I&#8217;m doing. Personally, I&#8217;ve found that true GTD takes more babysitting than I&#8217;m able to give it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things certainly looks nice, simple and easy to use.

I&#039;ve also tried a number of GTD tools out there.  I even stuck with Backpack for over 2 months!

For some reason though I can never stick to a paperless solution! I prefer to use a moleskine and index cards for my gtd solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things certainly looks nice, simple and easy to use.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also tried a number of GTD tools out there.  I even stuck with Backpack for over 2 months!</p>
<p>For some reason though I can never stick to a paperless solution! I prefer to use a moleskine and index cards for my gtd solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Orchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Orchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judi - it&#039;s not really clear what you&#039;re looking for. If you want an unstructured list manager, there are plenty of choices available. If you &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; doing GTD, why would a project/context/action be anything other than desirable?

I&#039;ve also been using OmniFocus for a couple of months now and like a lot of what Omni has done to create a good GTD app with a nice degree of flexibility. I also like iGTD and have been evaluating Midnight Inbox most recently. iGTD, like OmniFocus, uses a project/context/action structure and has some well-thought out features for anytime access, quick data entry, and integration with other apps and services including QuickSilver.

A lot of people really struggle with GTD process and for those who really want to work through David Allen&#039;s 5-stage process for knocking off actions and projects, I think the approach Midnight Inbox takes might be quite useful. It&#039;s less free-form and flexible than these other tools but definitely helps promote good GTD habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judi &#8211; it&#8217;s not really clear what you&#8217;re looking for. If you want an unstructured list manager, there are plenty of choices available. If you <em>are</em> doing GTD, why would a project/context/action be anything other than desirable?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been using OmniFocus for a couple of months now and like a lot of what Omni has done to create a good GTD app with a nice degree of flexibility. I also like iGTD and have been evaluating Midnight Inbox most recently. iGTD, like OmniFocus, uses a project/context/action structure and has some well-thought out features for anytime access, quick data entry, and integration with other apps and services including QuickSilver.</p>
<p>A lot of people really struggle with GTD process and for those who really want to work through David Allen&#8217;s 5-stage process for knocking off actions and projects, I think the approach Midnight Inbox takes might be quite useful. It&#8217;s less free-form and flexible than these other tools but definitely helps promote good GTD habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely give each new GTD tool (and development team) a whole-hearted try, both if it&#039;s an online app (like Backpack or Vitalist) or installed app (like Things or Omnifocus).

I may be biased, but the tool I keep going back to is Backpack. It&#039;s not billed as a true GTD app like the others but I love the flexibility it brings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely give each new GTD tool (and development team) a whole-hearted try, both if it&#8217;s an online app (like Backpack or Vitalist) or installed app (like Things or Omnifocus).</p>
<p>I may be biased, but the tool I keep going back to is Backpack. It&#8217;s not billed as a true GTD app like the others but I love the flexibility it brings.</p>
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