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		<title>By: Hoqenishy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoqenishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken: WRONG! If someone foolishly decides to block the Firefox agent, a one-minute tweak can get around your &#039;blocking mechanism&#039;. If you try to DIV wrap your ads and utilize Javascript, that&#039;s easily stopped by NoScript. The only other solution I&#039;ve seen was to use CSS, and even then that was circumvent-able. 

Bottom line - don&#039;t kick against a brick wall. Those determined to block ads (such as myself) will do it, and will figure out a way around your anti-blocking mechanisms in a fraction of the time it took for you to implement them. Instead of wasting time trying to fight the ABP crowd, find a new and unobtrusive way to monetize your site, such as self-hosted text ads. Yes, it will require more work, but the good news is that the market will dissolve most of the absolute &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;crap&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; found online and leave only the useful content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken: WRONG! If someone foolishly decides to block the Firefox agent, a one-minute tweak can get around your &#8216;blocking mechanism&#8217;. If you try to DIV wrap your ads and utilize Javascript, that&#8217;s easily stopped by NoScript. The only other solution I&#8217;ve seen was to use CSS, and even then that was circumvent-able. </p>
<p>Bottom line &#8211; don&#8217;t kick against a brick wall. Those determined to block ads (such as myself) will do it, and will figure out a way around your anti-blocking mechanisms in a fraction of the time it took for you to implement them. Instead of wasting time trying to fight the ABP crowd, find a new and unobtrusive way to monetize your site, such as self-hosted text ads. Yes, it will require more work, but the good news is that the market will dissolve most of the absolute <i><b>crap</b></i> found online and leave only the useful content.</p>
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		<title>By: James D Kirk</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-171386</link>
		<dc:creator>James D Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many, many ways to monetize ones venture online. Inline ads on websites are only one choice a website owner has in order to try and financially support themselves. All one has to do is look at the phenomenon of businesses like SiteSell.com and all they promote for literally thousands and thousands of site owners  to support themselves. In fact, anyone who owns a Site Build It! account knows the mantra of CTPM (Content&gt;&gt;Traffic&gt;&gt;Pre-sell&gt;&gt;Monetize) and that what is most stressed is NOT putting advertisements on your site until you have the traffic (generated by quality content). 
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://boldlygoing.com/2007_09_11/ad-blocking/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The rest of my post on this topic if you are interested!&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many, many ways to monetize ones venture online. Inline ads on websites are only one choice a website owner has in order to try and financially support themselves. All one has to do is look at the phenomenon of businesses like SiteSell.com and all they promote for literally thousands and thousands of site owners  to support themselves. In fact, anyone who owns a Site Build It! account knows the mantra of CTPM (Content&gt;&gt;Traffic&gt;&gt;Pre-sell&gt;&gt;Monetize) and that what is most stressed is NOT putting advertisements on your site until you have the traffic (generated by quality content).<br />
(<a href="http://boldlygoing.com/2007_09_11/ad-blocking/" rel="nofollow">The rest of my post on this topic if you are interested!</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Wladimir Palant</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-171152</link>
		<dc:creator>Wladimir Palant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A moral problem? Definitely not. The basic assumption behind ads is that they will only be interesting to few, that&#039;s why they are so many. Then what&#039;s the point if people who are not interested in ads are forced to view them?

But the main issue is that ads manage to annoy people who don&#039;t really want to block the ads - and in my experience there are many more of those. Blinking and making sounds brings you more clicks (at least in the short term). So we certainly have an economical problem here - alienating your customers seems to be the best business strategy at the moment. This is something Adblock Plus could change, by forcing advertisers to look for better strategies before they lose all the good will most people still show towards them.

I really don&#039;t think Adblock Plus will destroy the Internet - neither did popup blockers. They only changed the way advertising works on the Internet, for the better. Forgive the shameless plug but I discussed some economical aspects of this question here: http://adblockplus.org/blog/ads-dont-generate-money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A moral problem? Definitely not. The basic assumption behind ads is that they will only be interesting to few, that&#8217;s why they are so many. Then what&#8217;s the point if people who are not interested in ads are forced to view them?</p>
<p>But the main issue is that ads manage to annoy people who don&#8217;t really want to block the ads &#8211; and in my experience there are many more of those. Blinking and making sounds brings you more clicks (at least in the short term). So we certainly have an economical problem here &#8211; alienating your customers seems to be the best business strategy at the moment. This is something Adblock Plus could change, by forcing advertisers to look for better strategies before they lose all the good will most people still show towards them.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think Adblock Plus will destroy the Internet &#8211; neither did popup blockers. They only changed the way advertising works on the Internet, for the better. Forgive the shameless plug but I discussed some economical aspects of this question here: <a href="http://adblockplus.org/blog/ads-dont-generate-money" rel="nofollow">http://adblockplus.org/blog/ads-dont-generate-money</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really pay attention to ads - the ad blindness I have is strong, too. Anything blinking or moving just doesn&#039;t even register with my brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really pay attention to ads &#8211; the ad blindness I have is strong, too. Anything blinking or moving just doesn&#8217;t even register with my brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Skellie</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170819</link>
		<dc:creator>Skellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that only a small percentage of the web community are ever going to have the technical know-how to block ads. We&#039;re not even yet at a point where Firefox threatens the dominance of internet explorer yet.

Pop-up blockers are in mainstream usage but I don&#039;t think advertisers have a right to use pop-ups anyway.

Ultimately you can no more stop people blocking ads than you can stop them fast-forwarding or channel surfing through TV commercials. I think it&#039;s the right of the user to block ads if they have the will to do so. If someone&#039;s annoyed enough by advertising to block it then they&#039;re not going to be clicking ads anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that only a small percentage of the web community are ever going to have the technical know-how to block ads. We&#8217;re not even yet at a point where Firefox threatens the dominance of internet explorer yet.</p>
<p>Pop-up blockers are in mainstream usage but I don&#8217;t think advertisers have a right to use pop-ups anyway.</p>
<p>Ultimately you can no more stop people blocking ads than you can stop them fast-forwarding or channel surfing through TV commercials. I think it&#8217;s the right of the user to block ads if they have the will to do so. If someone&#8217;s annoyed enough by advertising to block it then they&#8217;re not going to be clicking ads anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric S. Mueller</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170808</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric S. Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as possible, I only block the truly annoying flash ads or ads from servers that are known for tracking. I have no problem with Google&#039;s &quot;Don&#039;t be evil&quot; approach, and I have found their ads to be very helpful to me on occasion. I like the ad supported business model as long as we&#039;re not talking about the annoying, seizure-inducing &quot;punch the monkey and win $20&quot; flashing banner ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as possible, I only block the truly annoying flash ads or ads from servers that are known for tracking. I have no problem with Google&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t be evil&#8221; approach, and I have found their ads to be very helpful to me on occasion. I like the ad supported business model as long as we&#8217;re not talking about the annoying, seizure-inducing &#8220;punch the monkey and win $20&#8243; flashing banner ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170785</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many ads require Javascript anyway.  So you can still wrap your ads in a Div and check it out when the page loads.  If you can&#039;t find your ad just do what a lot of places are doing and block Firefox.  While the zealots are a crazed lot the majority of surfers aren&#039;t, they&#039;ll simply switch to IE to see their content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many ads require Javascript anyway.  So you can still wrap your ads in a Div and check it out when the page loads.  If you can&#8217;t find your ad just do what a lot of places are doing and block Firefox.  While the zealots are a crazed lot the majority of surfers aren&#8217;t, they&#8217;ll simply switch to IE to see their content.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170636</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few thoughts: if advertising disappears completely, advertisers will try to promote their products within the editorial content even more than they do today. The value of the content decreases. Who is going to pay for content nowadays, when it is available for free somewhere else? Even if it has more quality, people won&#039;t pay. And the brain is the best ad blocker anyway - if the ad is not interesting, you don&#039;t click. So what is the point of ad blockers, when advertisers are happy with impressions and you help finance websites you visit frequently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few thoughts: if advertising disappears completely, advertisers will try to promote their products within the editorial content even more than they do today. The value of the content decreases. Who is going to pay for content nowadays, when it is available for free somewhere else? Even if it has more quality, people won&#8217;t pay. And the brain is the best ad blocker anyway &#8211; if the ad is not interesting, you don&#8217;t click. So what is the point of ad blockers, when advertisers are happy with impressions and you help finance websites you visit frequently?</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170601</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no more likely to click on an ad than to go to the advertiser&#039;s product or service site, so I find absolutely no moral dilemma when using ad blocking software</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no more likely to click on an ad than to go to the advertiser&#8217;s product or service site, so I find absolutely no moral dilemma when using ad blocking software</p>
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		<title>By: Assetbar</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170599</link>
		<dc:creator>Assetbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Block ads!  (And help the future get here sooner.)

Widespread blocking of ads won&#039;t make Web sites go out of business and we won&#039;t be the poorer for it.  Instead, new business models will arise, and MORE and BETTER content will appear.  

Micropayments *can be* affordable to everyone.

If you looked at one page per minute and wanted to replace a $5 CPM, you&#039;re on the hook for &lt;b&gt;30 cents per hour&lt;/b&gt;.   You can afford that, just like your $3.50 mocca frappa presso chino.

Look at your cable bill; you already pay for content.  You just pay too much, because it&#039;s all bundled together.    Micopayments could enable you to pay less for disaggregated, premium gems and lower consumers&#039; overall media bill. It&#039;s only a question of when low friction alternatives kick in.

By paying for content, value could accrue to good, interesting and useful content, not just content that is suitable for &lt;i&gt;others&lt;/i&gt; to advertise against.

In the same way AdSense / AdWords made advertising work for so many publishers, we need low-friction alternatives to advertising that are affordable to consumers and reward content creators more than ads do today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Block ads!  (And help the future get here sooner.)</p>
<p>Widespread blocking of ads won&#8217;t make Web sites go out of business and we won&#8217;t be the poorer for it.  Instead, new business models will arise, and MORE and BETTER content will appear.  </p>
<p>Micropayments *can be* affordable to everyone.</p>
<p>If you looked at one page per minute and wanted to replace a $5 CPM, you&#8217;re on the hook for <b>30 cents per hour</b>.   You can afford that, just like your $3.50 mocca frappa presso chino.</p>
<p>Look at your cable bill; you already pay for content.  You just pay too much, because it&#8217;s all bundled together.    Micopayments could enable you to pay less for disaggregated, premium gems and lower consumers&#8217; overall media bill. It&#8217;s only a question of when low friction alternatives kick in.</p>
<p>By paying for content, value could accrue to good, interesting and useful content, not just content that is suitable for <i>others</i> to advertise against.</p>
<p>In the same way AdSense / AdWords made advertising work for so many publishers, we need low-friction alternatives to advertising that are affordable to consumers and reward content creators more than ads do today.</p>
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		<title>By: WhoreChurch</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170477</link>
		<dc:creator>WhoreChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody gets paid until someone buys something.  None of us can make a living on the web or anywhere else until someone buys something.

One thing to consider is the Henry Ford approach:  If those of us who depend on the net for our income also buy on the net, we are paying &quot;ourselves&quot; the same way the early Ford workers became the customers for the product they were producing.

This doesn&#039;t mean you need to block or not block ads, simply that buying online strengthens the online incomes for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody gets paid until someone buys something.  None of us can make a living on the web or anywhere else until someone buys something.</p>
<p>One thing to consider is the Henry Ford approach:  If those of us who depend on the net for our income also buy on the net, we are paying &#8220;ourselves&#8221; the same way the early Ford workers became the customers for the product they were producing.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean you need to block or not block ads, simply that buying online strengthens the online incomes for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Patia</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170390</link>
		<dc:creator>Patia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting subject to me, as I block ads but have been considering integrating ads into my site. A bit hypocritical, yes? 

Well, the reason I block ads is not because I object to advertising, but because I cannot STAND anything moving on a web page I&#039;m trying to read. I loathe animated ads, and I won&#039;t ever have any on my site. I also resent the distraction of pop-up ads.

And for the record, I have been a paid subscriber of Salon for years, I&#039;ve donated to other sites that provide valuable information, and I&#039;ll gladly click on a sponsored search result if it&#039;s of interest to me.

If advertisers quit using popups and animated, flashing, blinking ads, I will happily uninstall my adblock software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting subject to me, as I block ads but have been considering integrating ads into my site. A bit hypocritical, yes? </p>
<p>Well, the reason I block ads is not because I object to advertising, but because I cannot STAND anything moving on a web page I&#8217;m trying to read. I loathe animated ads, and I won&#8217;t ever have any on my site. I also resent the distraction of pop-up ads.</p>
<p>And for the record, I have been a paid subscriber of Salon for years, I&#8217;ve donated to other sites that provide valuable information, and I&#8217;ll gladly click on a sponsored search result if it&#8217;s of interest to me.</p>
<p>If advertisers quit using popups and animated, flashing, blinking ads, I will happily uninstall my adblock software.</p>
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		<title>By: jdavey</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/10/ad-blocking-a-market-or-a-moral-issue/#comment-170385</link>
		<dc:creator>jdavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A moral issue?  Not at all.  I don&#039;t think morals have anything to do with this unless you&#039;re talking about advertising on pornographic websites or something else of that nature.  Whether or not you choose to view ads is a personal choice; one I&#039;d think would be rarely connected to morals in any way.  I feel this will be a niche phenomenon.  Since only 50% of web workers apparently use Firefox, I bet the percentage of casual user of the internet is more in favor of Microsoft browsers.  This leaves a vast minority of internet users with the ability to use the adblocking program.     This is a market issue more than anything and if adblocking goes viral, web businesses will have adapt as will users of services on the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A moral issue?  Not at all.  I don&#8217;t think morals have anything to do with this unless you&#8217;re talking about advertising on pornographic websites or something else of that nature.  Whether or not you choose to view ads is a personal choice; one I&#8217;d think would be rarely connected to morals in any way.  I feel this will be a niche phenomenon.  Since only 50% of web workers apparently use Firefox, I bet the percentage of casual user of the internet is more in favor of Microsoft browsers.  This leaves a vast minority of internet users with the ability to use the adblocking program.     This is a market issue more than anything and if adblocking goes viral, web businesses will have adapt as will users of services on the net.</p>
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