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		<title>By: The impact of Twitter - A paradigm shift towards presence &#124; BlogSchmog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The impact of Twitter - A paradigm shift towards presence &#124; BlogSchmog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] impacting is this new channel that it has renewed the ongoing debate about the death of email. Twitter evangelists argue that email isn&#8217;t persistent, is indefensible against [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At work I respond promptly and communication between co-workers is generally fairly good. Anyone who doesn&#039;t reply - esp. when customers are requesting one - is pretty much known as a poor communicator.

I&#039;m very close to giving up personal email though. I get pretty easily overwhelmed by a full inbox and for interpersonal communication, it doesn&#039;t work for me. I originally treated it as an electronic version of the letter, but its immediacy belies the fact that not everyone will respond to a letter the same way. E.g., if someone I haven&#039;t heard from for a while contacts me (and they don&#039;t live in the same city/province/country) and says they want to know how I&#039;m doing, etc., but then never replies when I respond and ask how they are, etc., well, it feels rude and a waste of my time, regardless of whether it&#039;s an email or a snail mail letter. I get that people are busy, but so am I and if I took the time to respond to a letter, then I kind of expect the person who initiated the contact to reply in kind. Even in brief. So at this point, if that happens with someone I know, I henceforth end contact or reply only very very briefly and don&#039;t bother with the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At work I respond promptly and communication between co-workers is generally fairly good. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t reply &#8211; esp. when customers are requesting one &#8211; is pretty much known as a poor communicator.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very close to giving up personal email though. I get pretty easily overwhelmed by a full inbox and for interpersonal communication, it doesn&#8217;t work for me. I originally treated it as an electronic version of the letter, but its immediacy belies the fact that not everyone will respond to a letter the same way. E.g., if someone I haven&#8217;t heard from for a while contacts me (and they don&#8217;t live in the same city/province/country) and says they want to know how I&#8217;m doing, etc., but then never replies when I respond and ask how they are, etc., well, it feels rude and a waste of my time, regardless of whether it&#8217;s an email or a snail mail letter. I get that people are busy, but so am I and if I took the time to respond to a letter, then I kind of expect the person who initiated the contact to reply in kind. Even in brief. So at this point, if that happens with someone I know, I henceforth end contact or reply only very very briefly and don&#8217;t bother with the details.</p>
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		<title>By: 7 Rules for Communicating Clearly and Concisely in E-mail at ramblings of a {sys,net}admin&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-191616</link>
		<dc:creator>7 Rules for Communicating Clearly and Concisely in E-mail at ramblings of a {sys,net}admin&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web workers, it’s gotten a lot of attention: how to handle your email, how to empty your inbox, email etiquette, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: abelcreative.com - 7 Rules for Communicating Clearly and Concisely in Email</title>
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		<dc:creator>abelcreative.com - 7 Rules for Communicating Clearly and Concisely in Email</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web workers, it’s gotten a lot of attention: how to handle your email, how to empty your inbox, email etiquette, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-09-19 : Bob Plankers, The Lone Sysadmin</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-176922</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-09-19 : Bob Plankers, The Lone Sysadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rising Email Immunity Leads to Conflict over Email Etiquette « Web Worker Daily I hate my email. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Barr&#8217;s Blog &#187; Links for Wednesday, September 12, 2007</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-171659</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Barr&#8217;s Blog &#187; Links for Wednesday, September 12, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Web Worker Daily: Rising Email Immunity Leads to Conflict over Email Etiquette - &#8220;Email immunity is unevenly distributed — some people have become almost entirely immune while others still treat it as a privileged and prioritized channel. Plus, entire generations are less susceptible to email communications: many twentysomethings and teenagers prefer instant messaging and texting.&#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Judi Sohn</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-168509</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi Sohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, I&#039;m the exact same way. I can&#039;t stand having unlooked-at non-spam email. I may not deal with it right away, I may not even read it deep enough to process it right away. But I know it&#039;s there and I know the gist of it. It&#039;s easy to process to zero when you don&#039;t have more than 10 pieces to deal with at one time. I archive everything, so if I&#039;ve given something a cursory skim-and-file when I should have spent more time with it, I can get at it later.

I also have informed my friends/family that while I love to hear from them, I&#039;m too busy for jokes and other garbage. With Facebook and other means of sharing stuff, that&#039;s not as much of an issue for me anymore. I look at my Mom&#039;s inbox when I help her with her email and it&#039;s full of &quot;Fwd:...&quot; messages. I don&#039;t have patience for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, I&#8217;m the exact same way. I can&#8217;t stand having unlooked-at non-spam email. I may not deal with it right away, I may not even read it deep enough to process it right away. But I know it&#8217;s there and I know the gist of it. It&#8217;s easy to process to zero when you don&#8217;t have more than 10 pieces to deal with at one time. I archive everything, so if I&#8217;ve given something a cursory skim-and-file when I should have spent more time with it, I can get at it later.</p>
<p>I also have informed my friends/family that while I love to hear from them, I&#8217;m too busy for jokes and other garbage. With Facebook and other means of sharing stuff, that&#8217;s not as much of an issue for me anymore. I look at my Mom&#8217;s inbox when I help her with her email and it&#8217;s full of &#8220;Fwd:&#8230;&#8221; messages. I don&#8217;t have patience for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Cornell</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-168403</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes to brevity: I still use sentences, though - I think it&#039;s more professional).

No to ignoring: If I&#039;m getting a message, I LOOK AT IT. Why? I don&#039;t want the stress of missing something. Plus, I work hard to make sure that if it&#039;s coming to me, it&#039;s important. Other than spam, you should be able to control this. CC&#039;s from colleagues? Ask them to stop. Cute puppy pictures from mom? Ditto.

Yes to emptying: Again, a stress issue - what&#039;s there waiting to cause a problem? Also, letting crap pile up (paper too) is a slippery slop to the &quot;pile, not file&quot; trap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to brevity: I still use sentences, though &#8211; I think it&#8217;s more professional).</p>
<p>No to ignoring: If I&#8217;m getting a message, I LOOK AT IT. Why? I don&#8217;t want the stress of missing something. Plus, I work hard to make sure that if it&#8217;s coming to me, it&#8217;s important. Other than spam, you should be able to control this. CC&#8217;s from colleagues? Ask them to stop. Cute puppy pictures from mom? Ditto.</p>
<p>Yes to emptying: Again, a stress issue &#8211; what&#8217;s there waiting to cause a problem? Also, letting crap pile up (paper too) is a slippery slop to the &#8220;pile, not file&#8221; trap.</p>
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		<title>By: The E-mail Post &#171; Sweet!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The E-mail Post &#171; Sweet!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aarondavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>aarondavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So not leave you inbox full. Inbox Zero is what its about. Just make sure you do not check your email too often. Check twice a day and empty that sucker out.

-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aarondavidson.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aaron&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So not leave you inbox full. Inbox Zero is what its about. Just make sure you do not check your email too often. Check twice a day and empty that sucker out.</p>
<p>-<a href="http://www.aarondavidson.com" rel="nofollow">Aaron</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-166483</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm.. I&#039;m just as immune to e-mail as to radio or television. Only now you&#039;re receivng lots of mini broadcasters. If it&#039;s relevant I pick it up. If not I do not respond or if needed for the sake of politeness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm.. I&#8217;m just as immune to e-mail as to radio or television. Only now you&#8217;re receivng lots of mini broadcasters. If it&#8217;s relevant I pick it up. If not I do not respond or if needed for the sake of politeness.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Zelenka</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-166442</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Zelenka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric: for me too there are certain people who send so much email of little value that I&#039;m almost entirely immune to messages from them. I haven&#039;t taken to directing their mail into the trash (still thinking I might get something important) but I rarely open those messages and never respond. 

Another good point made earlier was that difficulties arise in the asymmetry. As long as everyone has the same expectations -- whether about responsiveness or anything else -- it works fine. But when an immune person and a not-so-immune person interact, there can be problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric: for me too there are certain people who send so much email of little value that I&#8217;m almost entirely immune to messages from them. I haven&#8217;t taken to directing their mail into the trash (still thinking I might get something important) but I rarely open those messages and never respond. </p>
<p>Another good point made earlier was that difficulties arise in the asymmetry. As long as everyone has the same expectations &#8212; whether about responsiveness or anything else &#8212; it works fine. But when an immune person and a not-so-immune person interact, there can be problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric S. Mueller</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-166437</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric S. Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting there. My personal gmail account mostly seems to be a haven of newsletters. I get darn little personal email from anybody. At work, things are getting ridiculous. People treat the &quot;all-hands&quot; list as their personal bullhorn to send out notifications for every cause they happen to find useful. I&#039;ve setup extensive filters in Outlook to catch certain words and route them to a folder that I call &quot;BS Filter&quot;. I have email from certain people going straight to the trash because in three years on this job, I have NEVER gotten anything from them relevant to doing my job, yet every time an email from them comes in I have to stop what I&#039;m doing to handle it.

What really kills me is when people we know get their first computer and internet access, they invariably get that stupid &quot;Hi, I&#039;m Bill Gates, and I&#039;m testing an email tracking program. I&#039;ll give you $1000 for every person you forward this to&quot; email and have to forward it to EVERYBODY they know. Then I have to go to snopes, find the link, and find a way to gently let them know that this has been going around for more than a decade, there&#039;s no way to track email, and you&#039;re just being greedy and annoying without hurting their feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting there. My personal gmail account mostly seems to be a haven of newsletters. I get darn little personal email from anybody. At work, things are getting ridiculous. People treat the &#8220;all-hands&#8221; list as their personal bullhorn to send out notifications for every cause they happen to find useful. I&#8217;ve setup extensive filters in Outlook to catch certain words and route them to a folder that I call &#8220;BS Filter&#8221;. I have email from certain people going straight to the trash because in three years on this job, I have NEVER gotten anything from them relevant to doing my job, yet every time an email from them comes in I have to stop what I&#8217;m doing to handle it.</p>
<p>What really kills me is when people we know get their first computer and internet access, they invariably get that stupid &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m Bill Gates, and I&#8217;m testing an email tracking program. I&#8217;ll give you $1000 for every person you forward this to&#8221; email and have to forward it to EVERYBODY they know. Then I have to go to snopes, find the link, and find a way to gently let them know that this has been going around for more than a decade, there&#8217;s no way to track email, and you&#8217;re just being greedy and annoying without hurting their feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, I&#039;m immune.  The more email get the more immune I become.  People need to realize that their email message may not be the most high priority thing I have to work on.  Just because you emailed me doesn&#039;t mean your request jumps to the top of my list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I&#8217;m immune.  The more email get the more immune I become.  People need to realize that their email message may not be the most high priority thing I have to work on.  Just because you emailed me doesn&#8217;t mean your request jumps to the top of my list.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/09/05/rising-email-immunity/#comment-166032</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m about 80% immune. I find that anyone not attached to my online presence (Twitter, Jaiku, flickr, Facebook) has a hard time getting a response from me. Among my friend group, email immunity is asymmetrical, otherwise, I&#039;d be totally immune.

I had this discussion with my wife last week. She feels email should be personal and not the study in brevity that I use it as. I feel like it does me little good, so I treat it as such.

My main beef with email is the lack of context and threading of conversations. Gmail has changed the conversation threading and that is great. I like the context that Facebook walls and Twitter streams provide. This is also why I don&#039;t have philosophical discussions over IM. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about 80% immune. I find that anyone not attached to my online presence (Twitter, Jaiku, flickr, Facebook) has a hard time getting a response from me. Among my friend group, email immunity is asymmetrical, otherwise, I&#8217;d be totally immune.</p>
<p>I had this discussion with my wife last week. She feels email should be personal and not the study in brevity that I use it as. I feel like it does me little good, so I treat it as such.</p>
<p>My main beef with email is the lack of context and threading of conversations. Gmail has changed the conversation threading and that is great. I like the context that Facebook walls and Twitter streams provide. This is also why I don&#8217;t have philosophical discussions over IM. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work at Yahoo at a reasonably senior level, and email immunity is part of the culture there - and I&#039;m sure at most bigger Internet focused companies.  You simply can&#039;t be effective at your job and respond to every email you get.  As long as expectations are symmetrical its not a problem - i.e. nobody takes it personally if they don&#039;t get a reply email.  I often tell people in initial meetings to keep trying me if they don&#039;t hear back from me - almost like getting no answer in the days before voice mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work at Yahoo at a reasonably senior level, and email immunity is part of the culture there &#8211; and I&#8217;m sure at most bigger Internet focused companies.  You simply can&#8217;t be effective at your job and respond to every email you get.  As long as expectations are symmetrical its not a problem &#8211; i.e. nobody takes it personally if they don&#8217;t get a reply email.  I often tell people in initial meetings to keep trying me if they don&#8217;t hear back from me &#8211; almost like getting no answer in the days before voice mail.</p>
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