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		<title>By: WebWorkerDaily &#187; Archive Stalking the Ideal Work Week &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>WebWorkerDaily &#187; Archive Stalking the Ideal Work Week &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] works a 40-hour week any longer. In the past we&#8217;ve looked (somewhat skeptically) at the 4-hour work week, considered predictions of the coming 20-hour work week, and heard from real world web workers who [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rexreed</title>
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		<dc:creator>rexreed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying this out for myself on my blog at http://www.fourhourworkweekdiary.com. I am skeptical myself, and I&#039;m not sure if this will be a success. I&#039;m  hoping this will be a public experiment to prove (or disprove) the ideas in the book. I encourage feedback, comments, criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying this out for myself on my blog at <a href="http://www.fourhourworkweekdiary.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fourhourworkweekdiary.com</a>. I am skeptical myself, and I&#8217;m not sure if this will be a success. I&#8217;m  hoping this will be a public experiment to prove (or disprove) the ideas in the book. I encourage feedback, comments, criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Worker Daily &#187; Archive Very Cool Contest: Win a Virtual Assistant for 2008 &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Worker Daily &#187; Archive Very Cool Contest: Win a Virtual Assistant for 2008 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ferriss should write a book about self promotion.

He claims to have set the record for most tango turns performed in a minute. This is true.  The problem is...there is no competition for the most tango turns completed within a minute.  Tango is a sensual dance. Doing the most tango turns is meaningless to Tango.  

Think of it like this; In baseball a Pitcher sets a world record for the most baseballs thrown in a minute from the pitching mound to the short stop.  Sure, the guy sets a record, but it&#039;s totally meaningless to his skills as a baseball player or the game of baseball.  There is no competition to see who can throw the most baseballs and no pro pitcher would waste his time even trying. 


This is the case with Ferriss&#039;s tango record.  Totally meaningless... and he didn&#039;t even perform it well at all.

My friend read the book (I outsourced it to him, LOL) and from the stuff he quoted from the book, I won&#039;t waste my time reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ferriss should write a book about self promotion.</p>
<p>He claims to have set the record for most tango turns performed in a minute. This is true.  The problem is&#8230;there is no competition for the most tango turns completed within a minute.  Tango is a sensual dance. Doing the most tango turns is meaningless to Tango.  </p>
<p>Think of it like this; In baseball a Pitcher sets a world record for the most baseballs thrown in a minute from the pitching mound to the short stop.  Sure, the guy sets a record, but it&#8217;s totally meaningless to his skills as a baseball player or the game of baseball.  There is no competition to see who can throw the most baseballs and no pro pitcher would waste his time even trying. </p>
<p>This is the case with Ferriss&#8217;s tango record.  Totally meaningless&#8230; and he didn&#8217;t even perform it well at all.</p>
<p>My friend read the book (I outsourced it to him, LOL) and from the stuff he quoted from the book, I won&#8217;t waste my time reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Why You Shouldn&#8217;t Finish Something That Has No Value</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why You Shouldn&#8217;t Finish Something That Has No Value</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one skeptical about the whole of The 4-Hour work Week: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich (aff). Over at the Web Worker Daily, Jackson West&#160; wrote Rethink Your Relationship to Work: Ideas from The 4-Hour Work Week. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one skeptical about the whole of The 4-Hour work Week: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich (aff). Over at the Web Worker Daily, Jackson West&nbsp; wrote Rethink Your Relationship to Work: Ideas from The 4-Hour Work Week. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paxil</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in Germany and then in the United States</description>
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		<title>By: The 4-Hour Workweek-Behind the Meme &#124; fusiononlinemarketing.com</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/04/23/rethink-your-relationship-to-work-ideas-from-the-4-hour-work-week/#comment-66565</link>
		<dc:creator>The 4-Hour Workweek-Behind the Meme &#124; fusiononlinemarketing.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 13:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of this writing there are exactly eight news stories about the book Google News. And some of these, like WebWorkerDaily, are blogs. That&#8217;s not exactly what you would expect for a book that&#8217;s ascended up the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Micro Persuasion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micro Persuasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The 4-Hour Workweek - Behind the Meme&lt;/strong&gt;

I am starting a new semi-regular feature here called Behind the Meme. You&#039;ve heard of the VH1 show Behind the Music. This is similar. Each post will take a look at a meme (e.g. an idea that spread through conversations)</description>
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<p>I am starting a new semi-regular feature here called Behind the Meme. You&#8217;ve heard of the VH1 show Behind the Music. This is similar. Each post will take a look at a meme (e.g. an idea that spread through conversations)</p>
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		<title>By: How to be an Original</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to be an Original</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 04:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Book review: The 4-hour workweek&lt;/strong&gt;

The 4-hour workweekEscape 9-5, live anywhere, and join the new richby Tim FerrissISBN-10: 0307353133 ISBN-13: 978-0307353139 Published by Crown/Random House (April 24, 2007) Tim Ferriss sure knows how to launch a book. I was amazed by the speed with which</description>
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<p>The 4-hour workweekEscape 9-5, live anywhere, and join the new richby Tim FerrissISBN-10: 0307353133 ISBN-13: 978-0307353139 Published by Crown/Random House (April 24, 2007) Tim Ferriss sure knows how to launch a book. I was amazed by the speed with which</p>
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		<title>By: imgriff.com &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Mehr zu T4HWW</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/04/23/rethink-your-relationship-to-work-ideas-from-the-4-hour-work-week/#comment-55085</link>
		<dc:creator>imgriff.com &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Mehr zu T4HWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WebWorkerDaily: Ausgewogenerer Artikel zum Buch (Ferriss meldet sich in den Kommentaren zu [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Koehntopp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Koehntopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *really* like the ideas in Tim&#039;s book. I have only started reading it, but even if you don&#039;t directly make it to 4 hours, lots of the stuff will make your day to day work easier. Highly recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *really* like the ideas in Tim&#8217;s book. I have only started reading it, but even if you don&#8217;t directly make it to 4 hours, lots of the stuff will make your day to day work easier. Highly recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: [Productivity Workflows] &#187; &#8220;You productivity guru [&#8230;] can do this in all of your spare time&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>[Productivity Workflows] &#187; &#8220;You productivity guru [&#8230;] can do this in all of your spare time&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the book, has a very lucid analysis in the post she published in the Web Worker Daily yesterday: Rethink Your Relationship to Work: Ideas from The 4-Hour Work Week. Bookmark [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would Absolutely love to work from home, my (well i say my) i will rephrase, the company that i work for would see my having remote access being installed at home as an excuse to get more work out of me, coupled with them giving me a devilmachine Blackberry thingamy (prob with a homing device implanted in it) i dont think it would work for me,i am going to have a look at the book though as it does seem rather interesting

thanks for the post

NTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would Absolutely love to work from home, my (well i say my) i will rephrase, the company that i work for would see my having remote access being installed at home as an excuse to get more work out of me, coupled with them giving me a devilmachine Blackberry thingamy (prob with a homing device implanted in it) i dont think it would work for me,i am going to have a look at the book though as it does seem rather interesting</p>
<p>thanks for the post</p>
<p>NTS</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On non-finishing, I have to disagree. You see I agree with that *other* pillar of wisdom, Dr Phil. 

By following simple advice heard from Dr. Phil show, you can find inner peace. Dr. Phil says: &quot;The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started and have never finished.&quot; 

So I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn&#039;t finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of merlot, a bottle of white zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey&#039;s Irish Cream, a bottle of Kahlua, a package of Oreos, the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some Doritos and a box of chocolates. 

Naturally I am working a 4-hour work week. And you have no idea how freaking good I feel! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On non-finishing, I have to disagree. You see I agree with that *other* pillar of wisdom, Dr Phil. </p>
<p>By following simple advice heard from Dr. Phil show, you can find inner peace. Dr. Phil says: &#8220;The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started and have never finished.&#8221; </p>
<p>So I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn&#8217;t finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of merlot, a bottle of white zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey&#8217;s Irish Cream, a bottle of Kahlua, a package of Oreos, the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some Doritos and a box of chocolates. </p>
<p>Naturally I am working a 4-hour work week. And you have no idea how freaking good I feel! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Ruehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Ruehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chu.. Tim,

Thanks for the reply and clearing things up.
I see a few things different now. I&#039;ll be a LOT slower next time with my comments.

Let&#039;s hope we all find a good way to improve on our work / life balance.
Have to go now. Installing Auto-Reply haha ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chu.. Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply and clearing things up.<br />
I see a few things different now. I&#8217;ll be a LOT slower next time with my comments.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope we all find a good way to improve on our work / life balance.<br />
Have to go now. Installing Auto-Reply haha ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ferriss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Ferriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne, thanks for starting the discussion, and thanks to all for participating!  Let me see if I can provide a few answers and ideas:

1.  I know it seems unbelievable, but nothing in my bio is made up.  To address the question about the tango world record, I set it on Live with Regis and Kelly for Guinness, and the video is on my site.  For cage fighting, I used to train and compete with Shooto fighters in Tokyo (including Kiguchi Dojo and those from the original Japan Vale Tudo), and I was a police officer in the Chinese series &quot;Human Cargo&quot; -- we shot US-based scenes in Oakland -- which was broadcast in the mainland and HK around 4-6 years ago.  

2.  The outsourcing is definitely a multi-faceted socio-economical and political topic. I recently spoke at the Ignite keynote for Web 2.0 last week (www.web2expo.com) and was approached by a Swiss gentleman who works at UBS, the investment bank, in Zurich. While we were talking, another person walked up and asked if I felt bad about taking jobs from Americans to give to Indians, and the Swiss gentleman answered it for me. He said, &quot;Tim, you&#039;re actually in social development. In Switzerland, a recent study showed that for every white-collar job that was outsourced to India we were bringing 25 people above the poverty line.&quot; He explained that five people could be paid the same wages as one Swiss, and five people depend on each of those five. The Swiss would be provided for by social services in Switzerland until he or she got another job, where the Indians did not have that provision.

Please note that the wages paid to these overseas workers are often the highest-paying jobs available in their countries. $5/hour doesn&#039;t should like much here, but in India -- even in a place like Argentina, where I used to live -- it can go quite far. There are plenty of Americans overseas who work for $5/hour, and I&#039;ve used them as well. It&#039;s not underpayment; it&#039;s just payment in another economic structure.  I don&#039;t in any way recommend exploitation in the book -- I recommend being someone who &quot;moves resources from low-yield areas to high-yield areas,&quot; which is precisely how J.D. Say originally defined and coined the word &quot;entrepreneur.&quot;

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I don&#039;t blame people for being skeptical, as I&#039;m a skeptic myself.  The whole premise seems impossible, but as Billy and the dozen or so case studies in the book will attest, it isn&#039;t.  It&#039;s just uncommon.  To respond to Oliver&#039;s last two sentences, the book is all about finding your own path, not about being Tim Ferriss.  Most people have no interest in tango or cage fighting, and I push the principles to extremes, but people can use time however they please once they create it.  I just want to give them options.  

Hope that helps!

Tim Ferriss
P.S.  I actually dig the Chuck Norris comparison ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, thanks for starting the discussion, and thanks to all for participating!  Let me see if I can provide a few answers and ideas:</p>
<p>1.  I know it seems unbelievable, but nothing in my bio is made up.  To address the question about the tango world record, I set it on Live with Regis and Kelly for Guinness, and the video is on my site.  For cage fighting, I used to train and compete with Shooto fighters in Tokyo (including Kiguchi Dojo and those from the original Japan Vale Tudo), and I was a police officer in the Chinese series &#8220;Human Cargo&#8221; &#8212; we shot US-based scenes in Oakland &#8212; which was broadcast in the mainland and HK around 4-6 years ago.  </p>
<p>2.  The outsourcing is definitely a multi-faceted socio-economical and political topic. I recently spoke at the Ignite keynote for Web 2.0 last week (www.web2expo.com) and was approached by a Swiss gentleman who works at UBS, the investment bank, in Zurich. While we were talking, another person walked up and asked if I felt bad about taking jobs from Americans to give to Indians, and the Swiss gentleman answered it for me. He said, &#8220;Tim, you&#8217;re actually in social development. In Switzerland, a recent study showed that for every white-collar job that was outsourced to India we were bringing 25 people above the poverty line.&#8221; He explained that five people could be paid the same wages as one Swiss, and five people depend on each of those five. The Swiss would be provided for by social services in Switzerland until he or she got another job, where the Indians did not have that provision.</p>
<p>Please note that the wages paid to these overseas workers are often the highest-paying jobs available in their countries. $5/hour doesn&#8217;t should like much here, but in India &#8212; even in a place like Argentina, where I used to live &#8212; it can go quite far. There are plenty of Americans overseas who work for $5/hour, and I&#8217;ve used them as well. It&#8217;s not underpayment; it&#8217;s just payment in another economic structure.  I don&#8217;t in any way recommend exploitation in the book &#8212; I recommend being someone who &#8220;moves resources from low-yield areas to high-yield areas,&#8221; which is precisely how J.D. Say originally defined and coined the word &#8220;entrepreneur.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t blame people for being skeptical, as I&#8217;m a skeptic myself.  The whole premise seems impossible, but as Billy and the dozen or so case studies in the book will attest, it isn&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s just uncommon.  To respond to Oliver&#8217;s last two sentences, the book is all about finding your own path, not about being Tim Ferriss.  Most people have no interest in tango or cage fighting, and I push the principles to extremes, but people can use time however they please once they create it.  I just want to give them options.  </p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Tim Ferriss<br />
P.S.  I actually dig the Chuck Norris comparison ;)</p>
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