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Anne 2.0 » Blog Archive » What Do XForms and Vista Have in Common? says: November 30th, 2006 11:38am

[...] For Web Worker Daily, I ask whether the impending consumer launch of Vista matters to web workers. I’d think not, though granted some of the features look really cool and what Windows user doesn’t need better security? [...]

Richard Crowley says: November 30th, 2006 1:26pm

As a Mac user I can’t say whether Vista would change my habits were it in my future, but I spend far more time outside the browser than I gather many of my peers do. Firefox and Thunderbird are in constant rotation for me as well as VoodooPad for taking notes and writing anything other than emails. And of course the terminal, used for all the “real work.”

GigaOM » Vista: Do you care? says: November 30th, 2006 4:26pm

[...] It’s hard to escape hearing about the launch of Microsoft’s Vista operating system for business customers today — especially with Steve Ballmer calling it “the biggest launch in our company’s history.” The consumer version won’t be widely available until January. With all the delays in the Vista launch, what’s a little more wait? Anne Zelenka has some thoughts on Web Worker Daily . What do you think? [...]

kamen says: November 30th, 2006 4:30pm

As an(other) Mac user, I’m not losing too much sleep over Vista.

As regards webservices vs. desktop office tools, I like to think I’m a well-informed optimist. I adore web-apps, I’m a fan of Google Docs, etc. But I also find I like to have some degree of offline persistence. No, not a hard-disk full of Office documents and spreadsheets. But certain operations, and certain modes or work are simply not well catered for remotely.I like the idea of hybrid apps - i.e, apps which sync my desktop with my web-service backends. While I believe in the future more and more workload will be relayed to a remote server, I do think a certain amount of data and data manipulation will remain on the local computer (Can you call that a “thinning client” scenario?). Just my 0.02 €

PanMan says: November 30th, 2006 8:02pm

I also use my OS mainly as a shell for my browser, but there are still a lot of program’s that I don’t have browser based yet. For example: A good text editor (for coding), a SSH shell, an FTP browser (altho I do use IE for this, sometimes), music and video player, photo management, and Google Docs isn’t as ‘good’ as Word is, yet (and word isn’t THAT good…). It’s the right time to as: I just ordered a new PC, so tomorrow, I’ll see what I will install.

Paraglide Tandem says: December 1st, 2006 2:25am

Vista’s ability to search quickly and easily through downloaded web pages and documents is important to me. I use Photoshop and PowerPoint and Outlook and GPS apps that still have not been replaced by web based apps.

feartheseeds says: December 1st, 2006 4:20am

Doug, BestBuy Employee: “Hello, how may I serve you today?”
Nintey-Nine Percent Of Consumers: “I would like to purchase one of those com-puu-dors.”
Doug (who has a monster crush on Debbie, the redhead at cash one): “Yes sir, and would you like Windows Vista with that?”
99PcOfCons: “Duhr. I would like windows and a door thank you.”

OR

Mike, Dell Employee Of The Year (who is sleeping with Debbie, the redhead from BestBuy): “Hey, check it out, another weenie wants to buy a PC with Vista. Hey the dumbass gave us all of his passwords and account numbers. Hey everybody, new iPods on this guy.”

Later On In The Gates Cave: “Hey check it out, we just bought Brazil by default.”

People will buy Vista because they don’t give a rats bee-hind about Firefox or critical apps, ASPs, ISPs, OS, RichText Editor or PowerPoint. Easily 80% of the features on any home computer go entirely unused during said computers lifespan. Porn, email and the occasional grainy video of a teenager blowing up some stuff he found in your backyard (”Sweet Christ, I think that was my frigging dog!”). That’s it. The rest is just a giant make-work project to keep geeks like us off the street.

Gabriel.

Morten Brudvik says: December 1st, 2006 1:06pm

I have managed to move most of my needs into the Browser thanks to Google for their great web apps. I use regularly Gmail, Rss reader (The best!),Docs & spreadsheet, Calendar (Really great!), and for bookmarking I use the Yahoo del.icio.us service. I have been a Windows user for more then 10 years, and it has often been a pain in the ass to keep things running. When they finally manage to release a new OS, it’s just a bubble with no really new features. And from what little experience I have with it, it will be more problematic to use then Windows XP.. So I am not taking the shit anymore. I have decided to go for Mac. and I have just ordred myself a Macbook. :) Down the street, in maybe 2-3 years I think Linux will be the new kid on the block. They are sooo near, but still have to trim the edges a bit to be popular by the average joe . Just my two cents for what it’s worth.

Sai says: December 1st, 2006 3:29pm

Well, seems like there isn’t much about Vista goods for me since I don’t actually use much Microsoft on my PC. I’m contented, not to say very happy, with Win XP, and waiting for SP3 but that’s mainly it. I use OpenOffice along with Google’s for docs and spreadsheets. Mozilla Firefox, Thunderbird, del.icio.us, My Yahoo, GMail etc. I’ve turned down most of Microsofts applications and wouldn’t ever think of going back at it. I also think Vista is overhyped, both in the pro or cons department. I guess I’ll just try to have more patience and I’ll get me a mac someday, when I get the money.

engtech says: December 1st, 2006 3:48pm

US Residents can get a free copy of Vista for Business or Office 2007: http://engtech.wordpress.com/2006/11/30/free-windows-vista-to-us-residents/

Dave says: December 1st, 2006 5:05pm

A good question, and I wonder if this is the downside of the curve. There must come a point where people have a system that functions for them. The only reason to buy or upgrade would be security. But what can you lose?

As more and more businesses are changing to a web-based approach, using smart phones and so forth, and people in general are using broadband to do everything on-line (MySpace, Bebo, Flikr, webmail), the actual device for interacting is becoming unimportant.

The BIG things at the moment are terrorism, copyright (burning and ripping mainly), viruses, and hacking… most of which is a strange blend of security against the outside world and security for Microsoft and pop stars against lost revenue. All of which are virtual rather than actual or real. The whole lot is hype.

notgonnatakeit.com says: December 1st, 2006 5:30pm

Our lives should never be that complicated. OY.

Ituloy Angsulong says: December 1st, 2006 10:05pm

Thanks for the info Engtech

hellfried says: December 2nd, 2006 3:58am

i have gone without winxp for the past one month and am really enjoying my ubuntu edgy experience. being a coward i still have winblows sitting on a separate partition but i don’t see myself using it for any prolonged periods of time.

nope, i don’t think vista will even register on my radar.

Jeff McNeill says: December 2nd, 2006 6:44am

I am a former MCSE who took the first MS Windows95 class in San Francisco (there were six of us attending), and have rolled out NT 4.0, 2000, and XP. I don’t see any difference between the launch of Vista and these others. That is: MS lovers will jump on the release, and I personally know quite a few folks who have been running the beta. Corporate will yawn and ask “where is the value” and slowly get on the bandwagon… that is IF there is greater stability with this version, and their hardware can run it. Dell and others will start shipping bundled boxes at some point, and reinstallation of older OS will stop making sense in what, 1-2 years or so? For me, I always waited for Service Pack 1 (unless there was an immediate and important business need). I prefer to let others do the bug hunting for me.

Now Office 2007 will likely follow the same Office trajectory (very similar to the OS upgrade trajectory above). I also know several people who have installed the beta or even the most recent live release. But this breaks things! Resource requirements loom large. So again, until it becomes part of the defacto bundle, forgetaboutit!

Now, in terms of the functionality or use value, well Firefox with its myriad extensions (http://jeffmcneill.com/firefox/), as well as web services sprouting like mushrooms after a hard rain, and the increasing use of network storage, such as Amazon’s S3, or the great deal from Site5 (http://site5.com/) that provides 55gb of storage for $5/mo (with Flashback (http://www.whatisflashback.com/), backup solution which simply does snapshots of every version of every file), not to mention Google’s Docs and Spreadsheets (http://docs.google.com/) and Java apps like (http://thinkfree.com/) which finally get Java right as a network/desktop app and pretty much emulate MS Office. Hmmm, I am thinking yeah, we all will have Office 2007 at some point, but Office 2010? Maybe not…

Jeff McNeill » Blog Archive » Windows Vista and Office 2007 Launch says: December 2nd, 2006 7:06am

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Business & Office says: October 9th, 2007 7:50pm

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Druk wielkoformatowy says: October 11th, 2007 4:57am

VISTA= Very Incopatible Slow Antioperationsystem

Katalog stron says: October 11th, 2007 4:58am

Vista’s ability to search quickly and easily through downloaded web pages and documents is important to me. I use Photoshop and PowerPoint and Outlook and GPS apps that still have not been replaced by web based apps.