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		<title>By: JoeO</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-294830</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out mozy.com $4.95 a month for unlimited data.</description>
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		<title>By: Web Worker Daily &#187; Archive Spring Cleaning for the Web Worker &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Worker Daily &#187; Archive Spring Cleaning for the Web Worker &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disaster plan. Then pick a backup solution and do it. We&#8217;ve looked at solutions including Amazon S3, BeInSync, and CrashPlan, as well as asked readers what they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-289934</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of new online backup suppliers is growing daily and the variation in service and price is wide and complicated. My advice is chose carefully and soon. Online (when implemented correctly) is metaphorically the only way to go and in time this will be literal as local media becomes larger, faster, cheaper and more unreliable. I am with www.backupanytime.com and have used the service for over a year. I also have a mozy account for less crucial stuff but with the price of commercial options coming down per gig all the time I reckon I will use backupanytime.com for everything in time to come.

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of new online backup suppliers is growing daily and the variation in service and price is wide and complicated. My advice is chose carefully and soon. Online (when implemented correctly) is metaphorically the only way to go and in time this will be literal as local media becomes larger, faster, cheaper and more unreliable. I am with <a href="http://www.backupanytime.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.backupanytime.com</a> and have used the service for over a year. I also have a mozy account for less crucial stuff but with the price of commercial options coming down per gig all the time I reckon I will use backupanytime.com for everything in time to come.</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Open Thread: What&#8217;s Your Backup Strategy? &#171; Web Worker Daily</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-224953</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Thread: What&#8217;s Your Backup Strategy? &#171; Web Worker Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talked a lot about backup options in past months. You can go offsite with a service like Amazon S3 or Mozy. If you&#8217;ve upgraded to Leopard, there&#8217;s the shiny new Time Machine. You can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] talked a lot about backup options in past months. You can go offsite with a service like Amazon S3 or Mozy. If you&#8217;ve upgraded to Leopard, there&#8217;s the shiny new Time Machine. You can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reuven Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reuven Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check our S3 backed file system, ElasticDrive.  http://www.elasticdrive.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check our S3 backed file system, ElasticDrive.  <a href="http://www.elasticdrive.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.elasticdrive.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vinod</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-136905</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JungleDisk is NO more free.</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-25191</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone checked out Tilana Reserve?

Tilana Reserve…
- protects files securely, off-site
- syncs file between your computers
- includes Web access
- keeps versions when you save
- archives deleted files
- makes it easy to retrieve files
- works in the background

You can use Tilana Reserve on as many computers as you want. The software doesn&#039;t cost anything - just download it for free from the website. 

Whenever you create a file, or save changes, Tilana Reserve updates the files to your personal space at the Tilana Reserve off-site data center.

You don&#039;t have to swap out tapes, manage backup disks, or even remember to press a button, like some external backup drives.

When you protect files in Tilana Reserve, you can also sync them between any of your computers on the same account. Every time you save a file, the new version gets protected in the data center, and your other computers automatically get it from there, so they&#039;re always current.

Check it out at http://www.tilana.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone checked out Tilana Reserve?</p>
<p>Tilana Reserve…<br />
- protects files securely, off-site<br />
- syncs file between your computers<br />
- includes Web access<br />
- keeps versions when you save<br />
- archives deleted files<br />
- makes it easy to retrieve files<br />
- works in the background</p>
<p>You can use Tilana Reserve on as many computers as you want. The software doesn&#8217;t cost anything &#8211; just download it for free from the website. </p>
<p>Whenever you create a file, or save changes, Tilana Reserve updates the files to your personal space at the Tilana Reserve off-site data center.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to swap out tapes, manage backup disks, or even remember to press a button, like some external backup drives.</p>
<p>When you protect files in Tilana Reserve, you can also sync them between any of your computers on the same account. Every time you save a file, the new version gets protected in the data center, and your other computers automatically get it from there, so they&#8217;re always current.</p>
<p>Check it out at <a href="http://www.tilana.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tilana.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Web Worker Daily &#187; Blog Archive S3, Online Storage &#38; Data Details &#171;</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Worker Daily &#187; Blog Archive S3, Online Storage &#38; Data Details &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our previous post on using Amazon S3 storage service as a personal back-up option was quite popular. Though many pointed out that backing to that service wasn&#8217;t all that easy. Jeremy Zawodny has come up with a list of popular tools to help you with all that. Of the lot, the best one from ease of use standpoint seems to be JungleDisk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our previous post on using Amazon S3 storage service as a personal back-up option was quite popular. Though many pointed out that backing to that service wasn&#8217;t all that easy. Jeremy Zawodny has come up with a list of popular tools to help you with all that. Of the lot, the best one from ease of use standpoint seems to be JungleDisk. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lo Toney</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Lo Toney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use s3 with jungle disk and have no problems.  at first, i went out and bought an expensive back up drive only to think about a fire and decided that i needed to use cloud storage instead.

you cannot beat the price of amazon&#039;s s3 (jungle drive is free to use). in fact, my bill for last month was as follows: i transferred .267 gb worth of data, which cost $0.06 and my total storage was 5.095 gb, which cost $0.77 to host for a grand total of $0.83 for the month.  impossible to beat that price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use s3 with jungle disk and have no problems.  at first, i went out and bought an expensive back up drive only to think about a fire and decided that i needed to use cloud storage instead.</p>
<p>you cannot beat the price of amazon&#8217;s s3 (jungle drive is free to use). in fact, my bill for last month was as follows: i transferred .267 gb worth of data, which cost $0.06 and my total storage was 5.095 gb, which cost $0.77 to host for a grand total of $0.83 for the month.  impossible to beat that price.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Dreamhost too. For my My Pictures folder. The good thing about that is that it&#039;s ok if I forget to backup now and then (I do it manually with FTP). And I have 200G of space available, which is more than my laptop harddrive.

For my My Business folder I use Mozy. It&#039;s free, and every day when I come back to the computer there&#039;s that reassuring &quot;Your files have been backed up&quot; dialog box. It really makes me feel great :) Because it&#039;s the My Business folder (mostly Word docs), I haven;&#039;t run into the free size limitation yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Dreamhost too. For my My Pictures folder. The good thing about that is that it&#8217;s ok if I forget to backup now and then (I do it manually with FTP). And I have 200G of space available, which is more than my laptop harddrive.</p>
<p>For my My Business folder I use Mozy. It&#8217;s free, and every day when I come back to the computer there&#8217;s that reassuring &#8220;Your files have been backed up&#8221; dialog box. It really makes me feel great :) Because it&#8217;s the My Business folder (mostly Word docs), I haven;&#8217;t run into the free size limitation yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Valor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Dreamhost.com--it&#039;s even cheaper. At $8/month, that&#039;s $96 per year, over 5 years, Mr. Jeremy would be saving roughly $1200. 

You get 200 GB of storage space, increasing by 1GB/week, along with the usual array of web services all for $8/month. You also get 2TB (that&#039;s right--terabytes) of transfer (increasing by 16 GB/month). There&#039;s nothing new to learn either--the web administrative interface is ultra easy, and they support FTP, SFTP, and WebDAV. Heck, they&#039;ll even register a domain name for you for free.

Just so you know, I have no financial connection to Dreamhost--they&#039;d give me a referral bonus if you actually sign up under my reference, but I&#039;m not putting that link here just to prove it. They&#039;re just that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Dreamhost.com&#8211;it&#8217;s even cheaper. At $8/month, that&#8217;s $96 per year, over 5 years, Mr. Jeremy would be saving roughly $1200. </p>
<p>You get 200 GB of storage space, increasing by 1GB/week, along with the usual array of web services all for $8/month. You also get 2TB (that&#8217;s right&#8211;terabytes) of transfer (increasing by 16 GB/month). There&#8217;s nothing new to learn either&#8211;the web administrative interface is ultra easy, and they support FTP, SFTP, and WebDAV. Heck, they&#8217;ll even register a domain name for you for free.</p>
<p>Just so you know, I have no financial connection to Dreamhost&#8211;they&#8217;d give me a referral bonus if you actually sign up under my reference, but I&#8217;m not putting that link here just to prove it. They&#8217;re just that good.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonclark</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>shannonclark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking about exploring Amazon&#039;s Electric Cloud (beta) along with S3 to provide programable servers on demand for some projects. Specifically I&#039;m considering an attempt at the Netflix Prize (http://www.netflixprize.com) and if I do, I&#039;ll need the use of an adhoc grid to analyze multiple gigabytes of data (the prize data download uncompresses to nearly 2gb, analyzing it will likely generate far more data while the analysis is running as my software clusters and sorts the data sets).

What&#039;s pretty interesting about the Electric Cloud stuff is that you can either create server images (and store them on S3) OR you can select from a variety of pre-configured server images - and then you can instance those servers via an API call (and shut them down either via standard shutdown commands, or via another API call). This gives rise to the possibility of server farms that are created on the fly via programming as they are needed (i.e. automatic reactions to be Slashdotted, GigaOmed, techcrunched etc). 

It also points, I think, to the likely future of server hosting and servers in general - rather than spending a lot of time and money buying depreciating assets, you should be able to buy the use of servers on demand which are precisely configured for your application&#039;s requirements - and then instead of leaving them live as targets for hackers, you simplely have them automatically turned off when they are no longer needed - paying only for the computation that is used and a very nominal charge for the storage.

One concern, like many others, around using S3 for off-site backups is the bandwidth issue - not on Amazon&#039;s side but on my local network. I would have about 70gbs which I would need to backup (at least once) and then about 500-1gb PER DAY that changes on my local system (possibly much more - if my email were backed up as a new copy of the .pst file each night, that alone would be over 2gbs to back up each night).

Another concern, as Doug Kaye points out in a blog post (linked to in the comments to Jeremy&#039;s post), is whether the backups via S3 will be versioned or will they be more like mirroring drives (and encrypting them probably) offsite?

(which raises another issue/thought - I can&#039;t wait until Leopard from Apple, their new automated backup stuff seems really, really good - especially if it could work both with a local backup HD as well as an offsite tool such as S3 - versioned backups with easy restores - but hopefully handling backups over the wire/network smoothly.... may be enough to get me to switch from XP to the Mac)

Shannon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking about exploring Amazon&#8217;s Electric Cloud (beta) along with S3 to provide programable servers on demand for some projects. Specifically I&#8217;m considering an attempt at the Netflix Prize (<a href="http://www.netflixprize.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.netflixprize.com</a>) and if I do, I&#8217;ll need the use of an adhoc grid to analyze multiple gigabytes of data (the prize data download uncompresses to nearly 2gb, analyzing it will likely generate far more data while the analysis is running as my software clusters and sorts the data sets).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s pretty interesting about the Electric Cloud stuff is that you can either create server images (and store them on S3) OR you can select from a variety of pre-configured server images &#8211; and then you can instance those servers via an API call (and shut them down either via standard shutdown commands, or via another API call). This gives rise to the possibility of server farms that are created on the fly via programming as they are needed (i.e. automatic reactions to be Slashdotted, GigaOmed, techcrunched etc). </p>
<p>It also points, I think, to the likely future of server hosting and servers in general &#8211; rather than spending a lot of time and money buying depreciating assets, you should be able to buy the use of servers on demand which are precisely configured for your application&#8217;s requirements &#8211; and then instead of leaving them live as targets for hackers, you simplely have them automatically turned off when they are no longer needed &#8211; paying only for the computation that is used and a very nominal charge for the storage.</p>
<p>One concern, like many others, around using S3 for off-site backups is the bandwidth issue &#8211; not on Amazon&#8217;s side but on my local network. I would have about 70gbs which I would need to backup (at least once) and then about 500-1gb PER DAY that changes on my local system (possibly much more &#8211; if my email were backed up as a new copy of the .pst file each night, that alone would be over 2gbs to back up each night).</p>
<p>Another concern, as Doug Kaye points out in a blog post (linked to in the comments to Jeremy&#8217;s post), is whether the backups via S3 will be versioned or will they be more like mirroring drives (and encrypting them probably) offsite?</p>
<p>(which raises another issue/thought &#8211; I can&#8217;t wait until Leopard from Apple, their new automated backup stuff seems really, really good &#8211; especially if it could work both with a local backup HD as well as an offsite tool such as S3 &#8211; versioned backups with easy restores &#8211; but hopefully handling backups over the wire/network smoothly&#8230;. may be enough to get me to switch from XP to the Mac)</p>
<p>Shannon</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Loika</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Loika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attempted to use S3 for backups for most of the summer. The best windows client by far I found was Jungle Disk, http://www.jungledisk.com/. While Jungle Disk is planning on integrating backup features into their client, currently you need to find your own backup software. Unfortunately, I was unable to overcome a variety of issues, despite using several different pieces of backup software. The solution? Carbonite! http://www.carbonite.com/ Carbonite is CHEAP ($50) and even more importantly JUST WORKStm. It quietly works away in the background, backing up my 50 gigs of data I don&#039;t want to loose. In fact, Carbonite is so easy and functional that I&#039;ve been very strongly recommending it to my technophobe family and friends. Long story short? Consumer clients for S3 aren&#039;t quite there yet, give them a few months and in the meantime download the Carbonite trial. [FULL DISCLOSURE: I have no financial or other interest whatsover in any of the companies mentioned here.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attempted to use S3 for backups for most of the summer. The best windows client by far I found was Jungle Disk, <a href="http://www.jungledisk.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jungledisk.com/</a>. While Jungle Disk is planning on integrating backup features into their client, currently you need to find your own backup software. Unfortunately, I was unable to overcome a variety of issues, despite using several different pieces of backup software. The solution? Carbonite! <a href="http://www.carbonite.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbonite.com/</a> Carbonite is CHEAP ($50) and even more importantly JUST WORKStm. It quietly works away in the background, backing up my 50 gigs of data I don&#8217;t want to loose. In fact, Carbonite is so easy and functional that I&#8217;ve been very strongly recommending it to my technophobe family and friends. Long story short? Consumer clients for S3 aren&#8217;t quite there yet, give them a few months and in the meantime download the Carbonite trial. [FULL DISCLOSURE: I have no financial or other interest whatsover in any of the companies mentioned here.)</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, 

any suggestions on how someone like me could use this to back up my data and how does it compare with say dot.mac. i would love to get some help on that, and use it as a guest post. anyone interested?</description>
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<p>any suggestions on how someone like me could use this to back up my data and how does it compare with say dot.mac. i would love to get some help on that, and use it as a guest post. anyone interested?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Pigford</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Pigford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do all offsite backups to S3. It&#039;s incredibly cost efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do all offsite backups to S3. It&#8217;s incredibly cost efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://webworkerdaily.com/2006/10/04/amazon-s3-as-data-backup-options/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use S3 for the thumbnails at mefeedia.com. Not only is it way cheaper and MUCH easier to scale than storing them on the server, but also, storing millions of little files isn&#039;t something a regular linux server deals with well (we had all sorts of unexpected problems with server jobs getting stuck etc. coming up). S3 has been brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use S3 for the thumbnails at mefeedia.com. Not only is it way cheaper and MUCH easier to scale than storing them on the server, but also, storing millions of little files isn&#8217;t something a regular linux server deals with well (we had all sorts of unexpected problems with server jobs getting stuck etc. coming up). S3 has been brilliant.</p>
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